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Should We Pay People Smugglers?
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Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 15 June 2015 11:12:31 PM
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No one should be above the law.
No even the government running this country. And they certainly should explain to the voters of this country if what they are doing in our name is against both domestic and international laws: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/five-questions-the-abbott-government-needs-to-answer-on-the-people-smuggling-payment-claims-20150615-ghnzxz.html It is ironic that on the 800th Anniversary of the Magna Carta - we have to even discuss this question of governments being held to account. I would have thought that nobody being above the law would be something we would all take for granted. The law if after all the bedrock of our society today. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 June 2015 11:37:41 PM
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Dear Foxy,
<<The law if after all the bedrock of our society today.>> Imposing laws is a form of a violent attack on innocent people. Are you saying, without remorse, that the bedrock of your society is violence? Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 15 June 2015 11:49:57 PM
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Dearest darling Foxy,
What you talking about ? Boats are contracted to bring refugees and others from Indonesia to Australia. Let's presume that the Australian government authorises Customs/Border Protection officials to pay the ships' crews to take the boats back to Indonesia, presumably their point of departure. If you were a bona fide refugee, would you scrounge all the remaining savings off your relations and get on the next boat ? Or, painful as it may be, would you say 'bugger it', fill out all the necessary forms and wait your turn ? Yes, with fifty million refugees in the world, that may be the only alternative. Ghastly, ghastly, ghastly, but unless problems can be fixed up at source, the only one for fifty million. Ghastly. Yes, we ARE the lucky country. Love always, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 15 June 2015 11:56:09 PM
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Poirot -
Here is what you posted. "the navy should just fire a shot in front of the boat move forward and your boat will be sunk". (I fail to see three dots. Looks like you are also guilty of reposting what someone else has posted as being a quote without checking to see if it is accurate.) To quote you "(You should check your facts before strutting around giving orders:)" Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 12:23:00 AM
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I don't see how this illegal payment of money to people smugglers by our Government will work in any case.
If these smugglers take money off desperate refugees and then also pocket some more easy money by some idiot Aussie Govt puppet out on the high seas, then I should imagine that is a huge incentive to keep doing it. This Government trumpets on about how it has 'stopped the boats', but yet here they are still steaming towards our shores. Now they are paying the smugglers for the privilege? Really? Even worse is the obvious admiration some adoring posters to this forum have for the shonky Abbott and Dutton lies and shady deals carried out in our name. I think good ol' Tones has spent too much time at Howard's ('children overboard) place. Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 12:41:58 AM
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You suggest, in one of your paranoid episodes,
"No concern at all for the lives of defenseless men, women and children. Paying off criminals should be of scant regard to this mob, when you consider they are prepared to accept the Australian Navy blowing unarmed civilians out of the water.
"the navy should just fire a shot in front of the boat move forward and your boat will be sunk". Killing so many on board, the carnage of innocent men, women and children dead in the water is of no concern to the hateful among us.'
Gosh, that's terrible. But ....... has that happened yet ? Aren't you jumping the gun a bit, so to speak ? Maybe your mum should break in and stop you watching those Tarantino movies.
Paying off the crew of a smuggling boat may be just the solution to the entire traffic. End of: nobody in their right mind paying tens of thousands of dollars to end up back on the coast of Java.
People will have get in the queue, however it may be devised.
Wait and see.
Joe