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Should We Pay People Smugglers?
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Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 15 June 2015 7:26:41 PM
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Immigration and law experts have stated that giving
people smugglers money would be "unprecedented." It could constitute a form of people smuggling or bribery. This conduct would also be a breach of both domestic and international law. Whether this was indeed done needs to be judicially investigated. And most appropriately - on the 800th Anniversary of the Magna Carta. No one should be above the law. The bedrock of our society today. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 June 2015 7:50:53 PM
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Sterling stuff - and I can't say I'm surprised at some of the comments on this thread.
Many of you seem to think bribery by the state is a wonderful attribute to this shambolic govt's already sordid record. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jun/15/jakarta-demands-bishop-retract-claim-indonesia-failing-to-secure-its-border?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet It's all going to end badly, of course...a bridge too far by shonky Abbott and Co, despite the likes of Loudy concluding that it's some sort of evil (criminal?) genius. Oh well...they are entertaining in their way - although it's sad that we Aussies have to bear the shame of their follies. Posted by Poirot, Monday, 15 June 2015 7:57:48 PM
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So much for the humanitarian concerns of some of the forums 'Usual Suspects', No concern at all for the lives of defenseless men, women and children. Paying off criminals should be of scant regard to this mob, when you consider they are prepared to accept the Australian Navy blowing unarmed civilians out of the water.
"the navy should just fire a shot in front of the boat move forward and your boat will be sunk". Killing so many on board, the carnage of innocent men, women and children dead in the water is of no concern to the hateful among us. Such comment is disgraceful in the extreme. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 15 June 2015 8:50:44 PM
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Paul,
"So much for the humanitarian concerns of some of the forums 'Usual Suspects', No concern at all for the lives of defenseless men, women and children. Paying off criminals should be of scant regard to this mob, when you consider they are prepared to accept the Australian Navy blowing unarmed civilians out of the water. "the navy should just fire a shot in front of the boat move forward and your boat will be sunk". Killing so many on board, the carnage of innocent men, women and children dead in the water is of no concern to the hateful among us. Such comment is disgraceful in the extreme." Yes...I agree. We have on OLO these days quite a tight knit coterie of far-right fundies who regale us daily with views that would sit quite comfortably with regimes Australia has decried in past history. Of course we have a govt who reflects the same values - so much for progress in the wake of WWII...we're diminished by such rhetoric. Take this vile comment from Mr Faux civility, o sung wu: "...They can all now bugger off, with the kind assistance of the business end of a serviceable Barrett .50cal." I wonder how many women and kiddies would go down in that volley? Doesn't take much for some to display brutish regression, it seems...so much for civilisation. These jokers slam foreigners for their so-called callous disregard for human life - then carry on like this! Grotesque... Posted by Poirot, Monday, 15 June 2015 9:11:38 PM
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Paul1405 - When you put something in quotes it helps if you quote the whole sentence not just part of it that suites your biased agenda.
Here is the whole sentence just for your selective information. "To pay them you have to catch them or stop the boat, the navy should just fire a shot in front of the boat move forward and your boat will be sunk and you will be put on an orange boat going back to Indonesia or go back now." You have sunk to a new low here, posting part of a sentences as if it was all that was said. To quote you "No concern at all for the lives of defenseless men, women and children." Are these defenseless people from the same place, nationality, etc as the ones who rioted and caused over $60 million dollars damage to accommodation they were supplied not counting the other riots they have been involved in. Are they they same as the 100's who have committed crimes since coming here, I will answer for you potentially YES. Turn them around. Posted by Philip S, Monday, 15 June 2015 9:32:13 PM
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The skippers, crews and the criminal travel agents behind the smuggling deals might find out what some of those economic migrants are really like very soon after the ship changes its course.
There would be some very dangerous SOBs indeed among the economic migrants.