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The Fight with the Catholic Church in Australia.
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Posted by LittleOzemailPensioner, Monday, 25 May 2015 9:20:23 AM
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Paul,
You've finally responded!! I thought that that article might stimulate you; so how about doing the comparisons that are missing from your OP? Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 25 May 2015 9:39:06 AM
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Dear Is Mise,
I am glad that you read the article and got so much out of it. Do I agree with you? Well I certainly don't disagree with you and I understand your feelings. However as far as I'm concerned this is an issue that will continue to perplex me for many years to come. As I've cited in the past and as the historian Henry Reynolds has pointed out in his books -" many things have changed since the past. Much has been achieved. Tolerance and understand has been broadened out. Bigotry is in retreat. But the racist past still weighs heavily on the present. And Black armband history is often distressing, but it does enable us to know and understand the incubus which burdens us all." (Or I should say - some of us). Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 May 2015 9:53:49 AM
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Dear Is Mise,
There are a couple more websites on this subject that you may also find interesting: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/26/sorry-history-australia-apology-indigenous http://theconversation.com/sorry-isnt-the-hardest-words-say-it-for-the-stolen-generations-7079 Among the explanations offered the following especially resonated with me: "For many Aboriginal people, their lives are still controlled by government and various authorities - just like they were in the early days... Personally, I believe we are all connected by a common thread - some of us recognise this and others don't. Some of us acknowledge that the pain of others is the distress of all, just as the happiness or contenment of others can be our own satisfaction." "...When someone dies, we go to a funeral, we mourn the passing of a fellow human being who had a place in this world, and we tell their loved ones we are sorry for their loss. This "sorriness" does not imply responsibility," but it extends remorse that someone is experiencing grief and loss." "It isn't hard to understand really. The other thing I like to point out about 'Sorry Day' and the Stolen Generations is that it is not an event buried in history. Removal of children happened as recently as the early 1970s. The 1970s." Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 May 2015 10:24:50 AM
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Just as in the past when the Catholic Church seen fit to move errant priests from one diocese to another, as things got too hot to handle. All to protect the "good" name of the church, could it be that George Pell has been moved from the diocese of Sydney to the diocese of Rome, for the very same reason. As the saying goes; "You can run, but you can't hide." Pell has many more questions to answer, before this will go away.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 25 May 2015 11:18:14 AM
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Paul,
Actually I'm the Pope. Also please don't confuse my criticism of you with criticism of the Catholic church. Your over the top statements are patently ridiculous and make it difficult to take you seriously especially when embark on one of your vendettas. A quick guideline: 1 Criticism of the Catholic Church's criminal negligence wrt child abuse -- OK 2 Assigning them responsibility for all child abuse in Aus ever -- Stupid. Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 25 May 2015 11:31:57 AM
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I was "channeled" into a complaint system called Towards Healing that was more abusive than the original complaint. The system had been "stitched up" by Howard's "cleaner" Prof Parkinson so that nobody got a cent [as far as my experience told me] out of it but those who were free to use Pell's system [was it Victoria only?] were treated a lot more fairly. I simply let my own case slide knowing how ruthless the legal system is in protecting their "own" as we saw with Justice Yeldham
Once we were rid of Howard I stopped listening to the news and "retired in peace" but I hear there was yet another Pedophile Inquiry a few years back, so did anything come of it?
Was it just another talk fest?