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The Forum > General Discussion > The Fight with the Catholic Church in Australia.

The Fight with the Catholic Church in Australia.

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10 years ago I finally made a complaint against the Catholic Church for abuse against me in 1958 as a 12 year old.

I was "channeled" into a complaint system called Towards Healing that was more abusive than the original complaint. The system had been "stitched up" by Howard's "cleaner" Prof Parkinson so that nobody got a cent [as far as my experience told me] out of it but those who were free to use Pell's system [was it Victoria only?] were treated a lot more fairly. I simply let my own case slide knowing how ruthless the legal system is in protecting their "own" as we saw with Justice Yeldham

Once we were rid of Howard I stopped listening to the news and "retired in peace" but I hear there was yet another Pedophile Inquiry a few years back, so did anything come of it?

Was it just another talk fest?
Posted by LittleOzemailPensioner, Monday, 25 May 2015 9:20:23 AM
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Paul,

You've finally responded!!

I thought that that article might stimulate you; so how about doing the comparisons that are missing from your OP?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 25 May 2015 9:39:06 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

I am glad that you read the article and
got so much out of it. Do I agree with
you? Well I certainly don't disagree with
you and I understand your feelings.
However as far as I'm concerned this is an
issue that will continue to perplex me for
many years to come. As I've cited in the
past and as the historian Henry Reynolds has
pointed out in his books -" many things have
changed since the past. Much has been achieved.
Tolerance and understand has been broadened out.
Bigotry is in retreat. But the racist past
still weighs heavily on the present. And Black
armband history is often distressing, but it does
enable us to know and understand the incubus which
burdens us all." (Or I should say - some of us).
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 May 2015 9:53:49 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

There are a couple more websites on this
subject that you may also find interesting:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/26/sorry-history-australia-apology-indigenous

http://theconversation.com/sorry-isnt-the-hardest-words-say-it-for-the-stolen-generations-7079

Among the explanations offered the following especially resonated with me:

"For many Aboriginal people, their lives are still controlled
by government and various authorities - just like they were
in the early days... Personally, I believe we are all
connected by a common thread - some of us recognise this and
others don't. Some of us acknowledge that the pain of others
is the distress of all, just as the happiness or contenment
of others can be our own satisfaction."

"...When someone dies, we go to a funeral, we mourn the passing
of a fellow human being who had a place in this world, and
we tell their loved ones we are sorry for their loss. This
"sorriness" does not imply responsibility," but it extends
remorse that someone is experiencing grief and loss."

"It isn't hard to understand really. The other thing I like
to point out about 'Sorry Day' and the Stolen Generations is that
it is not an event buried in history. Removal of children
happened as recently as the early 1970s.
The 1970s."
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 May 2015 10:24:50 AM
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Just as in the past when the Catholic Church seen fit to move errant priests from one diocese to another, as things got too hot to handle. All to protect the "good" name of the church, could it be that George Pell has been moved from the diocese of Sydney to the diocese of Rome, for the very same reason. As the saying goes; "You can run, but you can't hide." Pell has many more questions to answer, before this will go away.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 25 May 2015 11:18:14 AM
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Paul,

Actually I'm the Pope.

Also please don't confuse my criticism of you with criticism of the Catholic church. Your over the top statements are patently ridiculous and make it difficult to take you seriously especially when embark on one of your vendettas.

A quick guideline:
1 Criticism of the Catholic Church's criminal negligence wrt child abuse -- OK
2 Assigning them responsibility for all child abuse in Aus ever -- Stupid.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 25 May 2015 11:31:57 AM
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