Pauk1405, "OTB, wants to divert attention away from the Catholic Church in Australia"

No, as you very well know because I stated it quite clearly, what you and the Greens are guilty of is reserving your criticism for the Catholic Church. You are silent about Islam for example and would even divert attention away from the child abuse risks of immigration policies that value the leftists' definition and goal of diversity above the safety, culture, good sense and even law when it suits your extreme multiculturalism.

That leaves you open to the charge that you are only hopping on the bus to worry about child abuse to serve your secondary and priority agenda which is to slag the christian churches, starting with Roman Catholicism.

The Greens don't value the inherited traditions, culture and way of life that was inherited from the UK and from Europe.

What you should be doing is trying to convince those middle class 'Progressives' aka International Socialists who determine Greens 'policies' (such as they are!) that above all, we don't want to be importing lasting toxic political systems, traditions and attitudes from places like Pakistan, that got British Labour into so much trouble.

That is if you can find it in your heart to pity the thousands of children whose lives were and are continuing to be seriously harmed forever by those Kashmiri men imported to the UK as part of the diversity push by 'Progressives'.

But still British Labour and the social reengineering 'Progressives' refuse to be accountable for the negative consequences of their diversity 'initiatives'.

Strange how the rock-spider celebrities like Rolf Harris are pursued by police (and they should be!), but ethnic lobbying was and is so strong that hundreds of Pakistani (the PC term is 'Asian') men and their thousands of school children victims really don't seem to matter to Labour administrations.

I repeat, enough of using pedophilia to serve the apparently more important secondary agenda, the leftist aim of trashing the Christian churches. That is bent.

Suse,

I agree but what is the position proportionate to all other organizations?

Does the Catholic Church attract more homosexual and bi-sexual paedophiles than other organizations?

These traitors to Catholicism and society need to be rooted out and punished, preferably by a long drop on a short rope.

Paul,

"I suspect abuse of children began shortly after the Catholic clergy first arrived in Australia." Even as an atheist with no love for the Catholic, your unhealthy obsession points to personal problems.

Secondly, given the rampant child abuse in Aboriginal communities, and other communities where the rule of law is weak, I would suggest that these practises existed long before the white man arrived.

Dear Shadow Minister,

It's only relatively recently that legal and
land rights, education and health care, for
our Indigenous people have become the important
issues for government Aboriginal Affairs departments.

Many Australians have never seen an Aboriginal
Australian, and perhaps through ignorance, their
plight has often been overlooked. Progress is being
made in many areas in the "Indigenous" fight for the
chance to survive in today's Australia, and although much
still needs to be done, perhaps the outlook is more hopeful
now than it has been in the past when Indigenous aid
schemes were run by "whites" who adopted a paternal
attitude to the Indigenous treating them like children and
considering that only they knew what was best.

Let us not forget that it was the white settlers who
introduced our Indigenous people to "the dole, grog,
and the protection of the white man."

"even as an atheist with no love for the Catholic, your unhealthy obsession points to personal problems."
Shadow, please elaborate, what you mean by "unhealthy" and "personal problems", and don't simply cast aspersions on me and then hide behind the anonymity of this forum. I have no problem with anyone who wants to practice Catholicism, they are welcome to it. Over to you.

Beach, you are all over the shop trying to marry a disgusting bunch of people in England with multiculturalism in Australia and a hotchpotch of isems along with Islam and leftest, Greens, progressives, all your favorite hates. Somehow you hope that by muddying the waters with this nonsense, the sins of the Catholic Church in Australia will be absolved on this forum and the attention will be turned onto those you hate.
I'll put it to you that since two witnesses before the Royal Commission this week have, in your word "slaged" the Catholic Church, and as far as I am aware, have failed to denounce Islamic abuse of children in England then their evidence is suspect to some degree, and like Pell said he is "sorry for their misunderstanding of him" Tell me what in your view motivates these witnesses. Do they also have a secret agenda?

IS Mise, just as I have assumed, without evidence, without any survey being conducted on my part, that you are a male of average intelligence, and not a person of indeterminate sex, and of below average intelligence. I believe I can safely say if you were to put the question: 'Which church in Australia do you most associate with pedophile acts being committed by its clergy?' The overwhelming answer from Australians would be "The Catholic Church", does that answer your concerns.

<<There is one school of thought that in proportion there are more paeodophiles in the Greens than in the Catholic Church.>>
Is Mise I must admit I don't have any evidence that you are of average intelligence.

Would all the defrocked priests on this forum please fess up! and those still in the habit as well. It not a sin, god will forgive you.

Thanks Foxy and Suse for your posts, they make for refreshing reading after wading through all the bilge water from the 'Usual Suspects'. Beach in particular, I beg you to limit you posts to 50 words, it's inhuman to expect a person to read 350 words of absolute nonsense, it must be against the Geneva Conversion or the Magna Carta or something, even Vlad The Impaler had the common decency to spare him victims from reading your posts before he stuck em' on the stick! Shadow, Runner Is Mise, could you please set your browsers to English (UK) I am having great difficulty interpreting what you are saying, it must be in ancient Hebrew, or some such undecipherable forgotten language! Makes no sense at all.