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Posted by Jayb, Friday, 10 April 2015 2:59:16 PM
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"Yep, that's right. Your support for people like Monis. A proven refugee fleeing terror. Your support for the Islamic Goons condemning Australia's freedom, Democracy & Culture, as shown in the video. Their New Constitution for Australia, as shown in the video. You haven't condemned that either. Therefore you have given tacit support to these people & their plan for Australia. They were proven refugees fleeing terror too. You say you support these proven refugees. By refusing to condemn these people you must support their Aims as well."
There ya go, folks....Jayb's got no-one to argue with, so off he goes merrily and mendaciously making it up as he goes along. What a nice guy! What an honest specimen - Lol! I like this one: "....Your support for people like Monis...." Double Lol! Come on Jayb - cough up proof on that one? But let me say, that I look forward to interacting with you somewhere down the track when you've learned to stop unloading whoppers as part of your repertoire : ) ................ ('Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.' - Winston Churchill) Send us a postcard! Posted by Poirot, Friday, 10 April 2015 3:27:19 PM
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Have I read this convoluted exchange correctly? Is there really someone who claims that Islamic atrocities against women don't exist? No capture of Hazidi women as sex slaves? No Boko Haram up to the same thing? No outrages in Rotherham because dhimmitude is so entrenched in the UK that gutless police feared to go against multiculturalism? No acid in the faces of little girls in Afghanistan to discourage seeking of education? No women put to death in Mozzieland for "adultery"? No FGM in compliance with Islamic "cultures"? No Islamic bullet fired into the skull of Malala Yousafzai for supporting women's education, deemed by Islam as "unislamic"?
Hell, I'm not referring just to atrocities by Islam against all infidels (us) or misbehaviour by Moslems not derived from their cult, - merely atrocities against women because they are women and because something about them is deemed by Moslems to be unislamic. Covering for Islam by denying this seems to be on a level with covering up Nazi crimes by denial that they ever happened. Face it - crimes specifically against women are derived from the instructions openly published in the Moslems' faux "holy books". A bit of serious study of these books might help. Try Ibn Warraq, Raymond Ibrahim, Bill Warner. Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 10 April 2015 4:09:15 PM
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Rundle: how to defeat Reclaim Australia
Guy Rundle Crikey April 9, 2015 http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152971136574355&id=303648619354&substory_index=0 Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 10 April 2015 4:14:48 PM
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Emperor Julian
"Covering for Islam by denying this seems to be on a level with covering up Nazi crimes by denial that they ever happened." Not quite, the problem with Nazi crimes is that from a technical standpoint it's a difficult subject to discuss in anything but very vague, general terms and holocaust denial is never any more specific in it's arguments than holocaust affirmation. We as lay people can only argue our point if we are on solid ground and have information which is both factual and comprehensible to other laymen, we don't get to preach rhetoric or use allegory in the way that "educated" people do. Both Reclaim and No Room For Racism are vague and non specific in their treatment of Islam because there are no competent laymen between the zealots at the top and the ordinary participant, this is why subjects such as immigrant violence and criminal tendencies within Lebanese, African and West Asian ethnic groups aren't on the agenda. Holocaust affirmation and holocaust denial can't bear any scrutiny or stand up to a critical analysis, for exactly the same reasons neither can Reclaim or No Room For Racism it's only when competent laymen are prepared to sit and debate specifics that any movement can occur. Honestly though who could be bothered? Nobody from the Left is going to take up an explicitly pro Islam position for reasons of political correctness nor is Reclaim going to talk about race or ethnicity due the limitations of it's own brand of PC. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 10 April 2015 4:54:37 PM
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Poirot: I refuse to condemn Islamic people from fleeing war zones and being afforded the right to live in peace if they have been deemed to have refugee status.
Yet you continually refuse to say you condemn refugees who break Australian Laws, Eg; Paedophiles, F.M.G, Multiple Marriages, Any moslem who calls for the overthrow of Australia Democracy, Culture & freedoms. You won’t condemn, Halal Certification or the introduction of Sharia Law into Australia, in part or in full. Your silence on these matters, when asked, would make anybody to believe that you support them. I have asked you what you think of the group in the video I sent you. You refuse to answer. I have asked your opinion of the “New moslem Constitution for Australia” put forward by this group. You have refused to answer. In fact you never answer a question directly. You then deflect by accusing me of something unrelated to the present questions. poirot: Again I ask - why would I interact with you "on subject" when time and time again you have demonstrated to me that you make things up, attribute them to others and refuse to provide evidence of your fantasies. Are you accusing me of engineering these videos just to get at you? Are you saying that these videos are fake? The only “others” involved in this case are the people who are in the video & those wrote the New moslem Constitution for Australia. I ask again. Do you support the people in the video’s views & do you support the New moslem Constitution for Australia? Just a simple “Yes” or “No” is all I ask. Posted by Jayb, Friday, 10 April 2015 5:59:56 PM
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This is just diversion because you are afraid to answer the Questions, truthfully, or you could Taqiyya. Ay.
When requested to provide evidence for your claims, you are the one who has "deviated" blathering something about them all being somewhere or other....etc, etc.
poirot: Now you're mumbling in your boots about me providing "tacit" support for all the "nasties" because I refuse to condemn Islamic people from fleeing war zones and being afforded the right to live in peace if they have been deemed to have refugee status.
Yep, that's right. Your support for people like Monis. A proven refugee fleeing terror. Your support for the Islamic Goons condemning Australia's freedom, Democracy & Culture, as shown in the video. Their New Constitution for Australia, as shown in the video. You haven't condemned that either. Therefore you have given tacit support to these people & their plan for Australia. They were proven refugees fleeing terror too. You say you support these proven refugees. By refusing to condemn these people you must support their Aims as well.