Paul,
So you do understand.
Now, write the words "The so called Nazis work for the Liberal party" and your credibility remains intact.
The wider issues really is that your much maligned "bogans" ie the majority of White Australians and a good many non whites besides have no effective political representatives and rightly feel that they're being screwed over by governments and corporations alike.
The reason simple folk fall prey to these scams like the anti Halal movement and such is because they want to be involved in activism on their own behalf but nobody is offering them genuine strategies or real rallying points. You need people with 110 IQ and above to lead the masses of 90-100 IQ people, a person of average intelligence like Shermon Burgess or Elise Chapman can't lead others of the same intellectual level,they quickly hit the limits of their ability and that's how smooth operators like Danny Nalliah and Mike Holt worm their way into these patriotic movements and divert them to fit their own agenda.
The reality is that Australians of all backgrounds are waking up to the fact that the major parties, the state governments, local councils and even the churches are working against the interests of the majority.
The Muslims get it, their leaders understand that the government is not there to serve the interests of the common person because it's been made explicit in their case and people of all walks of life are now coming to realise that in a sense "we're all Muslims now".
Don't you think the Left could capitalise on that sentiment and recruit these "Bogans"? The fact that they don't even try to educate or convert anyone outside the inner urban, university educated elite is telling, as is the fact that they will use any means to shut down any patriotic sentiment rather than try to absorb it as Rise Up!, One Nation and the Liberal party do.

Socialist hate free speach because it shows up the hopeless failure of their dogmas. Just look at the way they criticize the stopping of the people smuggling trade. Though it has led to no drownings and far less people in detention they still twist the story and prevent anyone from speaking the truth.

Fighting hatred with hatred at Reclaim Australia rallies is a failure of progressive politics
Brad Chilcott
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/06/fighting-hatred-with-hatred-at-reclaim-australia-rallies-is-a-failure-of-progressive-politics

runner,

"Socialist[s] hate free speach because it shows up the hopeless failure of their dogmas. Just look at the way they criticize the stopping of the people smuggling trade. Though it has led to no drownings and far less people in detention they still twist the story and prevent anyone from speaking the truth."

Which "truth" is that, runner?

Is that the "truth" that cloaks irregular maritime arrivals as "operational matters" and provides no transparency at all into what is actually taking place on the high seas and in Australia's territorial waters?

Is that the "truth" that informs us that the boats have "stopped", yet spurs the govt to buying many orange boats to send the non-existent asylum seekers back from whence they came? (I note our govt has gone for the cheaper option of ACME Vietnamese faux fishing boats to do the same job - problem being that they can't stay afloat long enough to get them out of the dock)

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/vietnamese-boats-unseaworthy-government-sources-say-20150311-1411bi.html

Is that the truth that informs us that a group of asylum seekers "in a boat" were sent back (in the same boat) just the other week after spending 3 days on Christmas Island?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/asylum-seekers-turned-back-to-indonesia/story-fni0xqll-1227275479213

Funny, don't you think, if the boats have stopped.

We haven't got a clue what's been happening up there - don't lecture lefties on transparency and free speech.

JoM,

I take the point that some "progressives" turned up to challenge the reclaim gathering...but let's not label this rally as something springing up from grass roots progressive activism.

Here's an article from the first march in March rallies last year:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-16/protesters-march-in-march-across-australia-against-govt-policies/5324048

I draw your attention to the people marching (lots of pics there) - spot the difference?

(Noting also that this rally struggled to be reported - over Australia it drew very large attendance, yet picked up only minor coverage on MSM)

I put it to you that these people better represent concerned lefties/progressives than anything that was flapped around at the recent rallies.

Note the colour and the vibrancy of ordinary Aussies peacefully marching, displaying their displeasure at being hoodwinked by what turned out to be a far right-wing govt - and its policies.

That's a spontaneous outpouring from progressives - and it's a world away from the dank, dark, volatile humanity that turned up the other day to "reclaim Australia".

I went to the Reclaim Australia Rally in Brisbane. There was about 1000 people there for Reclaim & about 100 people there for the Anti-Reclaim. The first thing I noticed was the various people in the Reclaim camp. Aboriginals, Indians, Asians & White people all supporting Reclaim.

The mix of Society, Ordinary & Bogan was about 40/50/10% which was good to see. The signage was conservative. I saw no provocative signs. Most people stayed well away from the Anti-Reclaim area. The Bogans went to the Police line shouted provocative slogans back at the Anti-Reclaim group. The Organizers tried in vain to get them to leave that area & turn their backs on the Anti-Reclaim group to no avail. They were looking for trouble but the police & Security kept them well apart except for one (staged) short lived scuffle for the TV, with both sides having a laugh, even the security.

The Speakers spoke well, even Pauline, & were well received by the crowd as was to be expected. The 90% who listened had their backs turned on the Anti-Reclaim group at all times.

The Anti-Reclaim group was small, only about 80 people, mostly Aboriginal groups. Their signage was mostly about, stolen land, babies & Aboriginal Rights,with a few pro-moslem signs thrown in for good measure. Their vocal exploits were mainly concerned about the above issues & some extremely bad language was forthcoming. They were warned about the bad language a number of times but were reasonably well behaved other than that. Oh & the one scuffle, staged for the TV. It was probably arranged by the TV I felt because other than that it was somewhat boring.