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Who is Reclaim Australia?

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Further to my above post.

We are not a cohesive nation at all, but a nation of
divided, devisiveness.

AUSTRALIA, in the geographic sense exists.
But Australians, in the national one people sense, doesn't exist.

Our loyalties are tribal.
Posted by CHERFUL, Saturday, 18 April 2015 11:16:07 PM
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Reclaim Australia has a much wider scope than opposition to the Islamic Fifth Column. Its platform spelled out at http://www.reclaim-australia.com/ is social engineering little better than that preached in the Koran or Mein Kampf.

My point of view is that of a fifth generation Australian with ancestry going back in Australia and Britain as far back as records go, though possibly sullied by contributions from the Thief of Normandy. Blue, blue chip. A point of view and an ethnicity shared by a large number of “traditional” Australians. Maybe even some on this thread.

I’d support the first sentence (but not the second) in #1; Sharia Law should be confined to those who freely accept it for themselves, while vigorously opposed and debunked socially. I don’t share any of the values in #2. Fully support #3. Not support #4 (halal and kosher certification for those prepared to pay for it quite acceptable but no jizya foisted on the rest of us). #5: Prefer the Eureka flag to the British flag embedded in the Australian flag. Not enamoured of the anthem proclaiming us as young – most of us are no longer teenyboppers and many have Australian ancestry going back tens of thousands of years. Fully support #6 but should apply to all religion and extend to all schools. #7: oppose banning the burqa though hostile to and contemptuous of anyone who wears it (same as Nazi symbolism). Totally support #8. Also #9 provided “first marriage” doesn’t exclude remarriage.

So there you have it. A British-derived fifth generation Aussie who can fully support fewer than half the nine prescriptions. I won’t be marching with them – little better than the enemy Sieg Heil fests of the 1930s
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:41:11 PM
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Emperor Julian, I think that's the point, you proudly trace your ancestry back to foreign country whereas Australian civic patriots only care about birthright and posterity, it's wholly concerned with today and tomorrow, the "traditions" they speak of are the civic nationalist ideals of the 1970's and '80's.
If the Reclaim Australia group weren't so squeamish about National Socialism they could have modified it's platform to suit their own agenda and few people would have been any the wiser because very few "Anti Racists" know anything at all about Racism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_25-point_Program_of_the_NSDAP
How many of those 25 points could you get behind Julian?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 19 April 2015 6:24:43 PM
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To Jay of Melbourne: I'd get behind no more than one or two of the 25 points and would be totally opposed to nearly all of them as a festering concoction of racist arrogance. It would be just as vile if "English" was substituted for "German" throughout. But as Germany was a criminal nation at the time (having committed aggression against a neighbour, for a start) it was even viler than if the nation spoken for was innocent of the despicable crime of aggression. And no I don't speak with special pride about my racial heritage but only to demonstrate opting out of the expectation that the ridiculous ideology of Reclaim Australia would or should appeal to people on the basis of British stock and long family identity as Australian.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 19 April 2015 8:26:09 PM
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Emperor Julian

I like you, used to favour the Eureka Flag,
but then I realised it would not sit well with many
of the ethnic groups in Australia because
it has in the middle, a huge white cross.

Those who are familiar with the flag would know, that the
cross is not a religious symbol but the sign of the Southern Cross
star pattern, which can be seen in the skies of the "Great Southern Land" at night.

Most ethnic groups and new immigrants, plus people at the Olympics
would no doubt think of it as being a religious symbol of Christianity.
So it would probably cause more dissent than the current Australian Flag. Idont think a big white cross would go down too
well with our Islamic citizens. So they would be alienated by the
look of that cross in the middle for a start.

I think now, keep the beautiful colours of the flag, with the dark blue sky and stars, just put something different in the union Jack corner. Maybe a red kangaroo or desert flower. Maybe a sprig of red bottlebrush flower or a yellow wattle flower.

Or a square the same size in the corner depicting the 3 colours or is it two colours,of the Aboriginal people. Especially the beautiful reddish colour in their flag.

The blue with the white stars with a dash of red just look so beautiful together, it would be a shame to change those. Maybe someone could come up with another pattern or symbol that has that red blend in the corner that would be recognised and accepted by every group as a flag they could more readily embrace.
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 20 April 2015 6:54:29 PM
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What an insult to those that gave their lives to protect the values our flag represents. It has history unlike the single sentiments of those that want to change it to appease new migrants that do not understand the values it represents. It represents a unity of culture, law and spiritual values fought to give freedom from tyranny and oppression.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 20 April 2015 10:07:35 PM
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