Reprising the article Foxy's article:

http://theconversation.com/crime-stats-provide-reality-check-in-queenslands-bikie-crackdown-30908

"Crime stats provide reality check in Queensland’s bikie crackdown."

"One of the strongest arguments to support the Queensland government’s crackdown is that the overwhelming majority of bikies are supposedly hardened criminals.

However, data I obtained through Right to Information provides a more accurate picture of criminality within OMCGs. This data shows that the majority of bikies in the majority of clubs have no criminal history. If you include all OMCGs listed in the government data, it shows that approximately 60% of members have no criminal history.

The highest levels of criminality is limited to just two clubs, the Bandidos and the Lone Wolves. A number of the clubs proscribed by the legislation as criminal organisations don’t even feature in the government data. The data examined both confirmed and unconfirmed gang members under the generic term “participants”.

There has been a concerning failure of the VLAD laws to illustrate the criminal enterprise taking place within the gangs. Senior police struggle to provide any correlational evidence linking OMCGs to the epicentre of organised crime. Rather, they are just bit players – like many other criminal gangs."

"Recent decreases in crime not linked to the bikie war

Both the SMT report and the public comments by government MPs have attempted to link the bikie war to reductions in general crime categories such as unlawful entry offences, robberies, assaults and frauds.

However, an examination of five months of police data from January 2013 to May 2013 for the Gold Coast and Logan areas reveals almost no bikie involvement in these crime categories. These figures were before the bikie crackdown, when bikie activity could be expected to show higher levels of criminality."

Is Mise, sounds like The Beverly Hillbillies, before they struck oil. Where did the Clampett's keep their guns? Based on what you say. the only alternative is to keep your gun over the mantelpiece, fully loaded ready to shoot any varmints that should enter. The bloke in the one room shed, is that the same bushy who need his gun out on track to ward off them pesky wild pigs, you referred to earlier?

From the Australian Crime Commission,

"The Australian Crime Commission has issued a warning that organised crime by outlaw motorcycle gangs is putting innocent Australians at growing risk of getting caught up in the crossfire of guns and drug crimes.

The national crime and justice watchdog said the gangs had growing international connections "with sophisticated and high threat organised crime groups".

"The apparent willingness of organised crime, and outlaw motorcycle gangs in particular, to bring their violent disputes into public spaces increases the risk that members of the public will become unintended victims," the ACC says in a new report this week about organised crime.

ACC chief executive John Lawler said bikie gangs were "major players" in Australia's drug trade who carried out "brazen shootings" in public.

He said bikies continued to team with Calabrian mafia and other ethnic-based criminal groups to expand and enhance crime networks here and overseas.
"Hardly a day goes by when an outlaw motorcycle gang in some part of the country isn't brought before the courts," he said."

http://www.news.com.au/national/bikie-nation-8212-the-outlaw-gangs-in-your-backyard/story-fncynjr2-1226690598400

You wouldn't always expect police to be able to lay their hands on the senior and fully patched members of the OMCs. The clubs are highly organised, covert, sophisticated and practiced in the way they do business. Associates and other hangers-on are often the ones who do the dirty work in the hope of membership and favour. Their drug clientele, many of whom are middle class professionals which is where the big profits are, would be most unlikely to inform on them.

Beach, who are you trying to convince that outlaw motorcycle gangs are bad people, we know that. What you are trying to do is use the actions of these gangs as justification to clamp down on all Australians civil liberties. Famously the Bjelke-Petersen regime in Queensland made it illegal for three or more persons to gather on a street corner, denying freedom of assembly. All in the name of maintaining 'law and order', but it was more likely an attempt to stifle any protest against his corrupt criminal regime. A regime and its actions I am sure you approved of at the time. More of that police state you so desire.

Paul1405, "is that the same bushy who need his gun out on track to ward off them pesky wild pigs"

Do you imagine that the feral pigs would wait, posing, while the farmer does the long round trip to get his firearm?

You would have no stock and be wondering why. But wait a moment, you do realise that supermarket meat doesn't come from the BubbleWrap Tree of Plenty?

LOL, typical Green that always find a podium on the ABC's Q&A.

Paul is ducking and weaving and won't answer any of my questions; wonder why that is?