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Friends of Shooting

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Paul,

You posted: "....You justify this extremism as most necessary for the so called good of the majority. Nothing new in this attack on civil liberties from these extremists, on gaining power not only would they imprison the criminal, but anyone they [have] seen as opposing their regime...."

That describes the Greens, does not
"24. Regular unannounced checks by police or another enforcement body to ensure that individuals and clubs are abiding with firearm storage regulations;"
describe extremism for the good of the majority?

The present practice is for the police to arrange a mutually agreeable time with the licence holder, this saves police time and manpower as they won't call when no one is home.

What do the Greens envisage, midnight calls or 02:00 hrs?
The Greens unwarranted attacks on law abiding gun owners is extremism as are their continuing lies that are designed to gain their own ends.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 3 April 2015 8:15:14 PM
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Is Mise, what you want is no checks at all, in fact you would advocate totally uncontrolled gun ownership, would you not? The Greens policy on this, like all our policies is clear and concise, why do you need every word explained to you. Do you have a comprehension problem?
What about some info on that gun happy jamboree you guys held in Canberra. Can't you tell, was it secret Rambo business? Were you actually there? I wasn't, March 23rd I was busy helping Jenny Leong in her successful campaign to win the seat of Newtown for The Greens.Far more constructive than hanging out with that usless gun happy brigade in Canberra.
You and I have been in verbal fisticuffs about this for yonks on the forum, and you are yet to land a blow, whilst I have pummeled you all around the ring. You have been down for the count so many times yet keep coming back for more. I admire your tenacity! Is it a shooters thing, not only do you like to inflict pain, on those little defenseless woodland creatures, you also like to cop some pain yourselves. I say each to his own.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 3 April 2015 9:01:59 PM
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Just answer the questions Paul, obfuscation and inventing imaginary triumphs does you no credit.

Maybe the grass roots are as potent as the heads and leaves.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 3 April 2015 10:11:52 PM
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Not only do these shooters want to take over billions of dollars worth of national parks in NSW for their own exclusive use and exclude all others, bush walkers, sightseers, picnickers, passive campers and families, even the little children. In 2014 this one percent of the population was quite content to blow tens of thousands of dollars of taxpayers money on a folly, a so called experiment on control of feral animals in national parks by the Rambo brigade. This experiment was a disaster, an unmitigated failure.

I pose the question; How much does it cost to kill a rabbit?

Answer; $7152.00. I kid you not. This is the amount the NSW taxpayer forked out for each feral animal killed during this ridiculous experiment.

The undisputed facts:

Time of trial: February to August 2014
Location of trial; NSW National Parks
Animals killed; 198 (70% rabbits)
Total cost to taxpayers; $1,416,000
Average cost per animal killed $7152.00 I'll repeat that in case anyone thinks they are see double $7152.00

I propose that an annual Licencing Fee of $10,000 be placed on each gun these money wasters hold in NSW until they repay the taxpayer the money they owe them!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 4 April 2015 6:03:11 AM
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Just answer the questions, Paul.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 4 April 2015 8:15:32 AM
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Paul1405,

The Greens are notorious for telling only part of the story and fudging. Numbers are beyond them.

Without even bothering to look it is likely that the money was expended on the administrative arrangements to set up and manage the pilot. That would have been quickly recovered because the culling by the double licensed voluntary cullers ('R' licence additional) was free. NSW actually gained revenue through licence fees.

The other thing you are doing there is making the 'R' licensed volunteers immediately responsible for the feral population build-up that occurred under the so-called watch of the State and national parks bureaucracies and their policy of locking the public out of State and national parks. You should be adding the infestation of exotic plants to that list, which occurred again under the 'watch' of rangers.

You were silent too on the 'solutions' of the Greens. What about listing and costing them? Examples being: a huge increase in rangers; national parks to become an monster bureaucracy dictating to local and State governments; more closing off of parks to the public (adding to problems); ramped up park fees to the public (ensuring that low income families cannot visit and camp); and not forgetting of course the lethal 1080 poison aerial drops.

You also 'forgot' to mention that:

- State Forestry bureaucrats, the rangers, have been armed for years with those military assault rifles that are banned and they do use them in the parks. Contractors engaged by State & National Parks also use firearms in the parks and have done so for donkeys years. Poison is also used. Why didn't the contractors keep the populations down? Maybe it is a good income; and

- the volunteer 'R' licensed shooters would be in areas not frequented by the public and they are every bit as qualified and more so through the extra licensing than the publicly funded rangers and contractors.

Now what about you also tell us about the widespread 1080 poison chopper drops the Greens favour in NSW?

Q: How do you tell a Green is lying?
A: The lips are moving.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 4 April 2015 11:40:06 AM
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