Paul,

Ah! the old 'answer a question with a question ploy'; I'm not an intimate of those that frame S&F policy so I don't know but you've told us that David Shoebridge is a friend of yours, so are you close enough to get an understanding of policy?

I just thought that you might be able to shed some light on what the Greens mean.

Dear Paul,

I admire your tenacity - you must do what you feel
you must. I don't tolerate fools (for want of a
better word) well. Nor do I feel that I need to.
Walking away is so much more pleasant.
Especially from something that's total nonsense
where crime stats provide the actual reality
and the truth of the matter.

Anyway, the following two websites presents the facts
in the bikie law issue:

http://theconversation.com/crime-stats-provide-reality-check-in-queensland-crackdown-30908

And -

http://theconversation.com/the-revealing-facts-on-bikie-laws-and-crime-in-queensland-35892

Paul1405,

It is reasonable that the public would assume that Greens politicians would support Greens policies, such as they are. Unless as a claimed insider you can cite any who disagree.

All you are doing is desperately trying to divert attention away from Greens policy.

Greens policy was very evident in the recent Queensland State election. There is a public record of that.

Or are you claiming that the Greens got it wrong in Queensland and the NSW 'Watermelon' Greens do in fact support the very successful Qld laws to control gangs? -Laws that are now being considered for Victoria.

Is Mise, as a democratic grass roots party, Greens policy is formulated by the party membership through elected delegates to State Conference. No one member, not even a parliamentary member, can hold sway when it comes to policy. Unlike the undemocratic Liberal Party where a so called "captains calls" can take precedent over the wishes of the membership. As for friendship it has no bearing on policy formulation.
I assume you were at that shooting jamboree, hobnobbing with the best of em', rubbing shoulders with some 40 odd political luminaries. What was the consensus on policy?

Thanks Foxy for those links. As far as Beach is concerned, he tried to use the anonymity of this forum to make snide innuendos that The Greens in some way are associated with, or in league with, outlaw motor cycle gangs. I simply called him on it, demanding he put up or shut up, name names! Like that cockroach in the kitchen, he has ducked for cover and wont answer the challenge.

Paul, Foxy,

"I have to be careful with this particular poster as he lives a charmed life on this forum, I have already spent a week on the side lines this year because of what I called him."

Yes, the gods look upon "otb" with special affection, it seems : )

Here's a related article:

"The former president of the Queensland Bar Association described Jarrod Bleijie as an "inexperienced and under-educated, and, in my view, incompetent Attorney-General", who headed "insidious attacks" against the legal profession.

Peter Davis, who resigned as head of the Bar Association in June 2014, following escalating disputes between the Newman Government and the legal community, said there was an "intolerable and matter-of-fact attack upon the profession and the courts" during the Newman Government's term.

Mr Davis made the remarks in a speech made to the Bar Association on Wednesday night, after he was awarded life membership.

He said he realised "too late" that "confidentiality meant nothing to the Attorney-General".

"Between November 2013 when I became president and 13 June 2014, the date of my resignation, I resisted the government as forcefully as I could in private consultations with this Attorney-General," he said in speech notes seen by Fairfax Media.

"But, during the process which led to the appointment of a magistrate as Chief Justice of Queensland, it became evident to me that the Attorney-General had, to use Jim Thomas' expression, blabbed about my conversations with him to that magistrate.

"I realised too late that confidentiality meant nothing to that Attorney-General. I realised that speaking with him achieved little more than allowing him to clothe his decisions with the false claim of proper consultation when, in reality, there had been none."

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/jarrod-bleijie-slammed-as-incompetent-20150327-1m8kvx.html

Paul1405,

Your imagination and story-telling are getting the best of you. At no stage did I say as you claim, that the Greens are "are associated with, or in league with, outlaw motor cycle gangs". Your claim is a Strawman, a fallacy, where you make a false representation of your opponent's argument.

My posts were very clear, as are your continued attempts to divert attention away from Greens policies.

Once again and this time without your ploy of answering a question with a question, do you deny that the Greens have always opposed the anti-gang legislation and it is the stated intention and priority of the Greens to tear down the effective anti-gang laws in Queensland? It is true isn't it, that in the Queensland State election the Greens actively campaigned against those laws.

The Queensland legislation, which survived bikie court challenges, was immediately effective in reducing bikie violence and their drug trafficking in Queensland. Sadly, the violent gun-running drug gangs moved to States where the legislation did not exist. Now Victoria is considering the Queensland laws and obviously for good reason.