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Planned executions, should they or shouldn't they?

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Dear rehctub,

I fully understand your feelings.
And you're not alone.

Many people feel the same way.
Indonesia is determined that
their laws shall be upheld.

Personally, I question the usefullness and morality
of the death sentence. I don't believe that it's a
deterrent. If the death penality deterred - then
drug smuggling would not be such a problem in
Indonesia that it currently is. It continues regardless,
despite the death penalty. The fear of death appears not
to be a powerful deterrent. The offenders obviously
do not expect to get caught or to be convicted.

All in all it seems that risking the death penalty is a
gamble the perpetrators are prepared to take.
Surely there must be a better way of dealing with crime
in a civilised society - than taking human lives?
Indonesia however, does not seem to think so.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 10:42:12 AM
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Yes ConservativeHippie, I think you are on to something there as I too felt Tony was being influenced by public opinion. Why on earth he is still in the top jobs concerns me as I'm of the opinion he has passed his use by date, not to mention alienated anyone who has thoughts of one day becoming a republic.

Foxy, had Corby been executed (not that I'm suggesting she should have been) I would most certainly suggest that the Bali nine would not have done what they did, especially had this scenario played out before they offended. Not only that, if these two are executed I am certain any Australian even considering smuggling drugs from Indonesia will think twice.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 8:23:23 PM
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Dear rehctub,

I'm not so sure. Drug Lords are based in this
country and operate successfully and they will
continue to do so no matter who's caught in
Indonesia.

I think that more would have been achieved if the
Australian Federal Police would have waited and
arrested these two guys on their home turf - and tried
to find out who they worked for. I'm sure that
their "bosses" are still selling the drugs that
these two mugs got caught trying to bring back here.
After all they did not do this on their own. They
were just the "couriers" while the "King Pins,"
live in Australia and continue their trade.

And I'm sure they will continue to recruit others to
do their dirty work.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 9:16:56 PM
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It is simply amazing how the uninformed can mislead themselves into believing that the AFP and its international partners would not have examined every possible avenue and risk and balanced the available options for collaring as many of the criminals involved in planning, carrying and eventually distributing that shipment, and not losing control of the drugs.

Some complete idiots are even suggesting that Australian Customs and police hold back information and not cooperate with their international partners where an Australian criminal is suspected of planning or committing a capital offence. Crazy.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 9:58:56 PM
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Foxy: and tried to find out who they worked for.

You don't think they would have interviewed them about that. If they would have given up their names their family would have had an accident by now. that's how these bosses work.

No, the best idea is to catch them over there & make a big example out of them. Yes you will still get idiots who think they are better than the Security Forces & try it on. What happens next enhances the Gene Pool, Ay. Hang their pictures everywhere where they can be seen clearly. Let the idiots know that they can't win & will be caught. Caught overseas, they're dead. Great stuff. no sympathy & no compassion.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 10:18:28 PM
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otb,

You seem to know a great deal about the "uninformed"
and "complete idiots." The rest of us will just
have to accept your word on those matters.

Dear Jayb,

I guess we'll never know the full facts involved
in this particular case. We can merely speculate.
It will be interesting to see whether our Prime
Minister and the Foreign Affairs Minister succeed
in their attempts to have the death penalty revoked.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 10:30:11 AM
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