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Planned executions, should they or shouldn't they?

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I find all this weeping and wailing about the two men sickeningly hypocritical. Where's the sympathy for the boys, the mothers and children, the innocent shopkeepers, blasted to bits or burned to death in drone strikes by the Australian coalition in Yemen and elsewhere? Hundreds and hundreds maimed, burned and in agony for the rest of their lives. Families torn apart...orphaned children alone and scarred...they weren't drug smugglers, they were just ordinary people who happen to get in the way of our bombs. And don't say we didn't do it. We are the USA's most trustworthy allies and they wouldn't be there if we weren't.
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 16 February 2015 8:15:41 PM
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Hmmm .. I think you all need to know a little bit more about how the system operates in Indo.

And do please consider having a heart for the local Indos, as they are the ones who bare the burden of what I am about to say.

You see, in Indo, if you want to join the police or become a judge or the like (any decent position of status) you have to pay, and by Indo standards, a significant amount of money in order to get the job.

This is perhaps a mechanism by which the families who have money control the place and stay in positions of influence. It has little to do with merit which is one of the reasons these kinds of countries stagnate.

And of course, as soon as say Mr Policeman has his job, the first thing that is on his mind is getting his capital back.

So, you see them making their monthly rounds of the Pussy parlours and the drug dens etc etc And or if you turn up at the court, and you pass the attitude test, and it is not a matter which is in the international spotlight, the first thing the registrar will do is wander off to see if the judge is in a position to "help."

Of course, if you fail the attitude test, or start running off at the mouth, refuse or are unable to pay, then you are likely to be screwed as the normal processes of the law will proceed, and once matters have been escalated, there is little likelihood of anything other than the hammer coming down hard.
Posted by DreamOn, Monday, 16 February 2015 8:51:25 PM
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ybgirp: Where's the sympathy for the boys, the mothers and children, the innocent shopkeepers, blasted to bits or burned to death in drone strikes by the Australian coalition in Yemen and elsewhere? Hundreds and hundreds maimed, burned and in agony for the rest of their lives. Families torn apart...orphaned children alone and scarred.

They're Moslims, they had 1400 years to get used to it & they are. You didn't mention Sunni, Shiite, Whabbie, & any other Terrorist groups running around murdering people. You have only blamed the West. I take it by your comment that you side with the SI SI/SI SL/ or whatever they want to call themselves this week. You should get over there. I think they need people like you.

Now back to the subject. I agree they executions should have taken place at the earliest convenience, not 10 years later. Waste of resources.

These people had no regard for the lives that would have been lost had their endeavour succeeded. Then, they would have done it again. Apparently this wasn't their first trip either. Saying that they have been rehabilitated is crap. Every time someone gets caught they find Religion. Play for the PC Sympathy Card, yair, right.

It costs tens of thousands of Dollars to keep one really bad prisoner in jail per year. The cost of a bullet is a good investment.

Sympathy for the parents, No, they knew what their children were up to & by the way they were not children they were adults & as adults they must take responsibility for their actions. They had their chance to bring their offspring up properly & failed.

Blaming the Federal Police is BS. The Police were doing their job & co-operating with their counterparts in Indonesia. Indonesia's Laws are valid in their Country. Australia is too lenient on these types of people. They would have been out by now, selling their story & laughing in the faces of parents their Drugs had killed.

I hear of Drugs, I'm straight onto the phone. Even the School Kids at the School behind me.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 16 February 2015 9:12:10 PM
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Foxy, it's my understanding that the rest of the nine were mules and these two were the leaders. Personally, I would have shot all nine because ignorance is no excuse.

While my stance may appear extremely harsh, what would you prefer we did with what is now a limited resource, our taxes.

Personally, I would rather not waste money on the likes of this as I'd rather see a sick kiddy get that life saving operation/treatment, or perhaps put it towards improving the care for our elderly or even improve our health system in general.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 6:07:37 AM
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I wonder if Tony Abbott's (and the Coalition's) agenda on this matter is actually more about winning back some votes if their appeals to Indonesia are successful.

They are dreaming of the headlines 'Big hero PM saves two from execution' or Executions waived demonstrates the great relationship PM has with Indo president.

But I doubt they will be spared.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 6:09:11 AM
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Abbott: Ring, Ringggg. "Listen, Joko, ol' mate. I need to do some posturing to appease the Left Wing PC, Greenie people. Don't take any notice of what you hear, Ok."

Joko: " I know what you mean. I have to appease the Jihadists. Listen, we need some more Jizyah Tax. When can you arrange to send some more, Aid. You're falling behind in your payments."

Abbott: "Oh, Sorry mate. I'll send a coupla Billion straight away. that'll help pay for your Subs, OK."

Joko: "Right, be quick about it." Click.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 8:00:07 AM
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