Bazz, I'm more concerned about the threat posed by out of control government than by the risk of an islamic army in Austalia. Islamic terrorism is a threat but overall less of a threat to our future than governments turning emergency powers into permanant ones.

The tools and resources available to government to monitor people now are far greater than at any time in the past and getting more effective all the time.

I'm not seeing credible proposals on how to deal with the threat posed by islamic extremism within Australia by those who "want to do something". I don't think it can be solved by force, rather I think pro-active by extreme measures will just strengthen the extremist cause.

We do need to deal with proven issues,we should also be placing serious focus on the things that motivate a shift to extremism and working out what we can remove or defuse in that mix. Killarney posted a list thats worth thinking about.

R0bert

Jayb, my post history will show that you and I think alike as I was dumbfounded to think our government was canceling the oasports of these thugs before they left.

....Yeah, what we need in Australia is more anonymous internet trolls... Craig, feel free to contact Graham for my contact details.

Nathan J, the Lindy Chamberland case and the thug that caused the Martin place siege are a poor comparison, because one was suspected of murdering her own child, while the other was guilty of inflicting terror on an entire nation.

Now there's a classic example of us being reactive. That grub was known to police, was guilty of sending hate mail to the families of our dead soldiers and was freed on bail of a very serious crime by some politically correct judge. The proactive approach would have been to revoke his citizenship and get rid of him. We didn't and we paid the ultimate price.

O Sung, I agree 100%, because letting these people in knowing full well their hate against Christianity was possibly one of the dumbest moves we have made.

I agree there's not a lot we can now do, but im sure we can ban the Burqa, we can dismantle Mosques, we can ban Islam from our nation. Anyone who is INVITED HERE should be made leave their baggage at the front gate.

The fact is we allowed these people in and THEY not WE have provided the mechanism for extremists within to invoke hatred on fellow man. They didn't gain their hate from the same school/church/place of worship that I attended. They gained it from the faith they DIDN'T leave at the front gate when they were invited to join us.

Note the words JOIN US.

More than a few echoes from history here.

>>Ban Islam from our country<<

[Give them a yellow armband, so we know who they are]

>>...dismantle mosques<<

[Get the boys together one night, and just knock them down]

>>...concentrate on people of origins that have successfully integrated previously<<

[Aryans, anybody?]

>>...these people are already living amongst us, and in so doing, they're scheming and plotting operations, both here and abroad<<

[Make sure you generate plenty of fear and loathing among the populace]

>>Look at the way the media go at Cory Bernadi. He has been warning of this for years<<

[Get behind a local hero who can lead the fight]

>>In Holland there is an intention to declare the Koran illegal and be banned.<<

[Ban the books you don't like. Actually, making a big bonfire out of them would really send a message]

All of this, in one thread. Very impressive.

Pericles,

Interesting observations.

rehctub,

"They didn't gain their hate from the same school/church/place of worship that I attended."

Are you saying that the place where you gained your hate is superior to theirs?

"They gained it from the faith they DIDN'T leave at the front gate when they were invited to join us."

Oh, righto - I think that answers my question.

Pericles, while I accept that everyone is entitled and free to do what they choose, freedom should not include the right for any group who is invited here to go about removing the freedoms we have enjoyed for decades. This is precisely what Mulsilms as a whole have managed to do, remove our freedoms. The freedom to walk the streets at night in safety. The freedom to go for a coffee with friends. These are now gone, taken from us by either invited guests, or their offspring that they claim to be so called Australians.

They have managed to ban Santa clause from certain schools, even religious instruction, birthday cakes and celebrations, simply because the customs they brought with them were against ours. So rather than our forefathers saying that they needed to accept our ways, they managed to manipulate our leaders into accepting their ways.

This is why I now say enough is enough, we have tried their ways, and it's failed. Not only here, but pretty much anywhere in the world they have been invited to.

What more proof do we need.

The different being, dear Pericles, is that the Jews in Germany weren't bombing Buses, Planes, Trains & Buildings. They weren't massacring people wholesale world wide on instructions from their Religion. They didn't ban women from leaving the house without a male relation. They didn't ban them from driving a car or dancing.

Name a Country the moslems aren't doing that. Very hard to find one. Maybe Singapore.

Letting moslems in was a mistake Australia made & needs to fix immediately. No if's, no buts.