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It's time to decide, do we become 'pro active' or remain

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Poirot: most of those incarcerated French Muslims emanate from communities that are blighted by poverty and unemployment.

So are you countenancing their criminal activity because they are poor & unemployed?

I've been poor & unemployed (6 weeks the longest. Bread, Jam & Savaloys.) at times, but I never resorted to crime. That's probably why I've never been to prison.

Why do you think it's OK for them?
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 11:50:21 AM
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jayb,

You're such a disingenuous little flower aren't ypu : )

"So are you countenancing their criminal activity because they are poor & unemployed?"

Why is my stating a "fact" countenancing something?

"Why do you think it's OK for them?"

Where did I say that I thought it was Okay?

It's a fact (at least in the West) that those from communities affected by poverty and unemployment are more likely to get into trouble with law.

Nice try to twist my words.

Next.....
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 12:04:45 PM
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You just make this stuff up, don't you, runner.

>>Maybe you would like 10% like France where they make up 80% of the prison population<<

a) this is an incorrect statement,

b) any statistical imbalance could equally be due to the over-enthusiasm of the police to lock them up (which, I would have thought, you would wholeheartedly approve of)

http://stanford.edu/dept/france-stanford/Conferences/Islam/Khosrokhavar.pdf

and c) there is good reason to believe that poverty is the root cause.

"Many immigrants arrive in France in difficult financial situations, which make delinquency more frequent," said Jeanne Sautière, director of integration and religious groups for the French prison system. "The most important thing is to say there is no correlation between Islam and delinquency."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html

>>Maybe you would like to ask the thousands of Dutch girls raped what their thoughts are.<<

Your implication being, one would assume from the context, that you believe rape in The Netherlands is a Muslim issue?

So, show us some evidence. Here's mine, to kick you off:

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

Hmmmm. Australia has three times as many rapes as the Netherlands.

And this is what the Dutch have to say about it:

"It is scary to think that though it is now outrageous to consider darker skinned people to be lazy, physically handicapped people to be mentally retarded, Jews to be greedy and have big noses or heck, I don’t know planet Earth to be flat, it is apparently STILL okay to consider women who wear short skirts to be deliberately seeking sexual attention or worse from men."

http://dutchreview.com/dutchness/how-not-to-get-raped-in-the-netherlands/

I think I can guess where you pull these "statistics" from, runner.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 1:08:20 PM
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Poirot said:
and destabilisation in the 20th/21st centuries....oil!

Actually this is inverted. The more stable countries in the middle
east with oil "were" the most stable.
However Syria and Iraq did not pass the oil revenues to all their populations.
Saudi Arabia is still stable.
Kuwait is still stable as are the Emirates.
Egypt has become unstable because of its peak oil falling income.
Yemen's small oil industry has almost closed.
Lebanon never had oil.

No, oil made those that used the oil income wisely were stable.
As oil production declines they will all become poorer and like Egypt
will find their populations are then unsustainable.
They used their oil income to subsidise food and fuel and their
population rose to meet the food supply.
For example the Nile is calculated to support 40 million but Egypt's
population is now 80 million. Egypt is living on Gulf charity.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 4:31:46 PM
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Poirot.....Most of the assaults I read about involve the average garden variety drunken/drug-fueled Aussie thug.

Most if these adults are between two drunken morons, however, unlike terrorists they have their punch up, usually make up and co tinue drinking.

Now while I don't condone their behavior, I'm damned certain theyre not planning any beheading in the future.

If I saw Muslims as only being a problem here, I would accept that I am the one with the problem, the problem is, almost everywhere they go the same problems are evident and it's because they (the Muslim leaders and families) can't control their extremists, not even this who were born here.

As I have said before, we've tried it their way and it's failed, so it now time for action because up until now we have been treating the symptom, but ignoring the cause.

Another point worth mentioning is welfare. I will bet the 2% you refer to draws more than 2% of our welfare dollars, in fact, I'm going to state that so you can try to prove me wrong and, if you do prove me wrong I will happily withdraw the statement.

Finally, where do I live you ask. I live in a northern bayside suburb of Brisbane and I also live in the bush where I work.

The town of Kilcoy, a smallish farming community now has dozens of meat workers on 457 visas who roam the streets at night, and most locals are afraid to venture far from the main street. That's a disgrace.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 5:14:18 PM
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Which part of Sydney Pericles?

My son could not walk home from the railway station in full daylight in Allawah, just 3 years ago, without 4 of the black bearded Leb thugs jumping out of a passing car, & attacking him.

This is now in an area bordering a Muslim enclave, an area they are expanding into. The elimination of the present inhabitants is on going.

Tell me, have you ever tried opening your eyes?
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 6:03:25 PM
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