Bazz, I think there is some onus on Rehctub to summarize the scope of what he means. Banning the Koran is one possibility (good luck getting rid of electronic copies though) but that does not seem to cover riding (how do you spell that?) our nation of "these thugs".

Overall of the view that none of the variants that I can think of are practical nor am I keen on the likely extra power that laws to enable such a move would place in the hands of government. Some things could be done such removing any migrants who demonstrate a lack of willingness to obey our laws (or who incite others against Australia), beyond that what can be done that does not place all of us at risk.

Brutal measures might seem justified when targeted at some group that seems to be a threat, governments have a history of not giving up those options when they get them and of expanding their reach.

For a little food for thought have a read up on JSOC and how it's operating under Obama (and who some of the critcs are). It appears to be operating as a publicly funded kill squad answering only to the US president in contravention of international law.

The man who needed to close Guantanamo Bay regularly orders extra judicial executions of people outside the US without any trial or independent oversight. Many of the objective might be valid but I'm not all that keen on a global kill operating in secret as a means to making me safer.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-rise-of-jsoc-in-dirty-wars-2013-4

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/03/jsoc-obama-secret-assassins

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/52100170/t/jsoc-shadow-war-terror/

R0bert

Hi there BAZZ...

You mentioned on Ch. 7 this evening, some group or other threatened a Boko HARAM event, and of course what exactly are we (the security forces and police) doing about it ? "...Eh Bazz, you wanna another schooner or a middy mate..." ? that's the Aussie response my friend - Apathy, Lethargy, Disinterest, Indifference, Boredom and Dispassion ! Need I go on BAZZ ?

Oh if we can manage to find someone to tell them of the threat ? A politician perhaps...what did you say BAZZ they're all on holidays, where ? Overseas....? But of course, they're all overseas on the tax payers dollar no doubt ? Well I'll be buggered !

OSW: Oh if we can manage to find someone to tell them of the threat ? A politician perhaps...what did you say BAZZ they're all on holidays, where ? Overseas....? But of course, they're all overseas on the tax payers dollar no doubt ? Well I'll be buggered !

Take a deep breath mate. Remember, "He who panics, dies."

Hi there JAYB...

Mate I'm already dead, I have been for some time, (anatomically at least), I don't think I know it just yet ? It makes you ashamed to think that with all the potentially good blokes we have here in Oz, most of whom are all somewhat impotent, all because our illustrious leaders are either too scared or too incapable of biting the bullet, and do what has to be done ! It's for this reason I believe the West has already lost the ideological battle between the 'Christian & secularists' groups, Vs. the 'Radicalised Islamic' groups ?

Look at poor old France, with a total population of a fraction over seven million adherents to the Islamic religion ? A case of the enemy within ? And the mighty United States of America, with all their advanced technology, they can't begin to assess exactly how many Muslims, actually live within their 'porous' borders ?

Talk of being prepared, sure, we really are aren't we ?

Jatb no I didn't say they were overseas.
Robert I'll read those links tomorrow, want to watch Mad Dogs (and Englishmen).
Hows that for getting priorities right , Hi!.

Yes I am aware of all the difficulties. If the Islamists wait until
their numbers reach a level that they can field a significant army,
then it will take a major military campaign to defeat them.
The ISIS development and Boko Haram are the prototype of what we would
face if it cannot be suppressed at a much earlier stage.
Those two armies came into being in areas with a lot of chaos already
existent. It might not be possible for such an army to come into being
in a place like Australia. Watch what happens in France, if they get
an army together there, then it could happen here.

Actually I would hope that the military colleges of our countries
are doing studies of these movements already.
At some point as the numbers of moslems increases the level of threat
will increase as it has done in France.
The only event that might intersect with such escalation will be the
end of growth and the collapse of the current energy system and the
arrival of a major economic collapse.
The Middle East will be more affected than the west.

Anyway that is my nightmare, whats yours ?

It is too late now. We will not do a damn thing, until we are faced with a situation like the civil war in Beirut.

Then & only then will we act, but I believe we will act decisively once it happens.

The developing situation will be responsible for the spilling of much blood in the not too far distant future.

Actually it would be poetic justice to see a few of the more strident feminists here living under Sharia law.

May be we blokes should join them, rather than resist them.