Note the tactic by the excusers, "What do you mean by this ?"
"What do you mean by that ?", really are they so dumb that they are not
aware of what has been going on around them ?

All this does is divert the discussion to airy fairies instead of real
policies.
What needs to be done is obvious, a restructure of our immigration
policy parameters, ie concentrate on people of origins that have
successfully integrated previously.
That does not require much thought at all.

Remove all those that have as a group resisted integration and indeed
have membership of religious/political assemblies that officially urge separation.

Cancel policy that enables dual citizenship. It was a nice touch
originally and was a happy arrangement until it was abused.
Someone always spoils a good arrangement.

That will do for starters.

Yeah, what we need in Australia is more anonymous internet trolls...

Bazz,

"Note the tactic by the excusers, "What do you mean by this ?"
"What do you mean by that ?", really are they so dumb that they are not
aware of what has been going on around them ?"

Yes, thanks for that - and rehctub,

Can you explain to us your modus operandi for instituting all these things.

Because, as you rightly point out, regarding your proposals...."That does not require much thought at all."

Things that don't require much thought are invariably simplistic - and perfect fodder for blathering online - not so perfect for instituting as legislation.

Yuyutsu,

"perhaps the one legitimate role of the state is to secure its citizens against thugs - all thugs. If keeping the peace requires to get rid of them then so be it." I'm assuming no one at all on this page is a "thug".

What ever happened to the principle, like innocent until proven guilty? The situation has been for a long time, "guilty into proven innocent". Do we want to be going back to past where people would have their heads chopped off or be stoned to death?

One example where this would was a problem was Lindy Chamberlain. One of her daughters died and she was charged in relation to the incident, having to spend over three years in prison. In the last (more recent) investigation by the Norther Territory coroner undertaken, it was found that "the cause of Azaria Chamberlain's (her daughter) disappearance and death was from the result of being attacked and taken by a dingo."

The Northern Territory Government has refused to make an apology on the issue - and if Lindy Chamberlain was "got rid of", I would argue "get rid of us all" - after all aren't we all "thugs" - in some times of our lives? I mean, we get angry or annoyed when we get a Christmas present we don't want, when valentines day is forgotten or when someones birthday isn't remebered.........

I'm waiting for days like those with a phone call from my parent's waiting to get the lecture - telling me what I should be doing and I feel like getting out the something......

P.S Tony Abbott - I'll need a multi million taxpayer funded campaign to stop that. Terrorism solved.

Poirot, of course it is simplistic.
The discussion is at the point of deciding aims.
After you decide what you want to do then you start to talk about
the mechanism to be employed to achieve those aims.

That is normal project development, you do not waste time on discussing
mechanisms until you know what objective is to be implemented.
That is the point where politicians can be useful.

Carts & horses.

NathanJ: I'm waiting for days like those with a phone call from my parent's waiting to get the lecture.

So what you are saying is that your Parents are decent people & you are a disappointment to them.

NathanJ: What ever happened to the principle, like innocent until proven guilty?

Sometimes their own words convict them. Like that Clown in Perth, Thorne & his Cohorts around Australia, preaching Jihad against Australia from the Pulpit. These people should be first on the plane. Next the Jihad Bikies led Jihad Ganges Like the Bandito's & Brothers for life, etc. The Jihadies that want to leave. 10 more stopped from leaving, Courier Mail (17 Jan 15) Page 25.

I can hear it now from the PC & SOG. Oh, they are just poor misunderstood innocents. Well by their protectors, maybe.