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Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 13 December 2014 2:21:25 PM
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there is no doubt the more secular humanist has influenced and infiltrated America the more corrupt it becomes. I doubt very much 9/11 would of happened if not for the denialist who are more interested in promoting a perverted sexual agenda than they are the security of a nation. Look at the fools in this nation supporting Assange, Hicks and Snowdon. How sickening.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 13 December 2014 2:44:23 PM
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For those of you who are interested about this mythical 'choke hold' one of the contributors has alluded to herein...
What he's referring to is a process that forms an integral part of the whole suite of PPCT defensive measures for police. Titled, the 'lateral vascular neck restraint', developed c.1983-85, and refined by the then Chief DTI for the Greater St Louis, MO., Police Dept., Bruce SIDDLE. Its efficacy was closely examined and the effects tested on several 'cadavers' (apparently ?) by that Departments, forensic Medical Officer a Doctor COOPER, over a couple of years. This Doctor's name has momentarily escaped me ? I believe it is, as stated a Dr COOPER, anyway that's what happens when you claim to be a real 'know it all '! LOL. The principle being, there's 'bi-manual mechanical constriction', occasioned upon the two carotid arteries cutting off about 70% of the blood to the brain. This is obtained by the application of both the arm and the forearm, and applying simultaneous pressure to both carotids. Thus rendering the subject unconscious and insentient. Therefore changing his behaviour from being 'resistive' to 'compliant' ! That's the theory, I believe ? Personally I'd be very worried, if a person had a substantial build-up of plaque within the walls of those two carotid arteries, might the person suffer a life threatening event ? According to the US Doctor's, no ! Provided the restraint is applied properly by those who've been trained correctly. This is the only 'APPROVED' restraint method, permitted to be applied, to any part of the cervical region, used by all law enforcement personnel in the United States. It should be mentioned (as the original contributor had correctly stated), there are now a significant number of law enforcement agencies in the US, who have banned such procedures, because of the rising number of safety issues, and injuries ? Pressure Point Control Techniques (PPCT), are also prohibited from use, by all police forces in Oz ? If any reader who wishes to discuss or rebut anything I've said, on this specific issue, please respond ? Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 13 December 2014 3:28:39 PM
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It's also worth noting that in the U.S things like police brutality, official corruption, waste and inefficiency get worse under Black Democratic party mayors and police chiefs.
Detroit under Kwame Kilpatrick, New Orleans under Ray Nagan, the current mayor and police chief of the Cleveland district in which Tamir Rice was killed are both Black and the police force is crippled by low morale and corruption which is manifesting in brutality toward citizens. I can't remember who coined the term "Black Run America" but it's used a lot on my side to describe how the White dominated U.S government is now administered in such a way as to make every policy and program accommodate the lower IQ and high time preferences of the Blacks, ie everything is dumbed down so they can understand it or participate and based on hand outs and appeasement of their fragile egos. This has resulted not only in White flight but an exodus of the minority of intelligent, capable Black people from areas like Detroit, Baltimore, St Louis, Newark and so forth, the Black people who used to run businesses, employ their neighbours and support service clubs and community groups. Many black neighbourhoods are now economic dead zones where the shopkeepers and professionals have been driven out by crime and violence from the locals and where there's no economic activity beyond pawnbroking and drug dealing. Watch what will happen to Ferguson now because the government tried to appease people who are too dumb to even understand the false liberal narrative of racial oppression, here's what happens when a stupid White liberal tries to teach some black kids how to protest peacefully in Berkley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziTj46x3pYQ He got off lightly, only lost two teeth, this silly old hippie got whacked in the head with a hammer, the picture says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jGmGiARnBo http://i2.wp.com/www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Berkeley-California-Hippie-Smashed-By-Nigs.jpg?resize=480%2C320 His shirt reads "Cops:Stop Killing Black Men!", then amid chants of "peaceful protest" he's smacked in the gob with what looks like a ball peen hammer, the irony is delicious. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 13 December 2014 5:27:40 PM
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Dear o sung wu,
How many different holds are usually in a policeman's repertoire? If there are too many it would be difficult to train the officer in the uses and effects of all of them. There are so many variables. Posted by david f, Saturday, 13 December 2014 5:55:07 PM
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You have to wonder about the disingenuous bleeding hearts who blather on about black deaths in custody in Oz, & black criminals killed by white police in the US.
They must know that the Oz experience is that there is a higher percentage of white deaths in custody than black, but prefer to pretend it is a black phenomena. The same thing occurs in the US. In many districts high black population cause most criminal activity to be black, but in others, like OZ, it is mostly white killed fighting police. In both countries it is only those wanting to use the racist claim who talk about these deaths as if blacks are overrepresented. They know this is not the case, but it is a good excuse for a riot, or to claim more money be wasted on no the useless. Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 13 December 2014 6:14:53 PM
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With respect you're not quite correct about the former PM HOWARD being a coward, because he was wearing protective body armour ? He wore an ill fitting, Series II 'Morgan Magnum' (soft insert), Body Armour, too large for his physical frame. This was at the absolute insistence of the OIC of his 'close protection' detail, because of the heightened 'Threat Assessment' that had been earlier determined by ASIO. In reality, PM HOWARD declined to adopt any additional security measures, until the sergeant I/C of his VIPP Detail, had received the updated TA.