Dear o sung wu,

I don’t think Hansen-Young is flaky. The US has millions of undocumented aliens on the loose without being in detention camps. They have not presented any great problem. If those in the detention camps were released into the community they could be monitored unlike the many undocumented aliens in the US. The aliens guilty of carrying out the 9/11 attack in the US were legally in the country. I don’t think the boat people would present a problem if released into the community.

I think the irresponsible ones are those like Tony Abbott and Kevin Rudd who have treated the boat people as though they are a great menace which we need protection against. I think the ones we need protection against are those like Tony Abbott and Kevin Rudd who appeal to and exacerbate a climate of fear and hate.

Dear Philip S,

Humans can do terrible things. However, they still are human regardless of what they have done. They should not be tortured since, in English Common Law, no person shall be forced to testify against himself. In our system people are innocent until proven guilty. When they are proven guilty of a crime they may be liable to some penalty. In the United States “cruel and unusual” punishment is banned by the Constitution. Therefore torture is illegal even if the person has been proven guilty of a crime. If the Supreme Court of the US should decide that the death penalty is “cruel and unusual” punishment that would outlaw the death penalty.

Whether a person is a Nazi, Jihadi, terrorist etc. they should be treated decently when in our custody and should not be tortured. Those who torture them should be subject to the full penalties of law. The fact that others may do terrible things does not justify their maltreatment by us.

I appeal to the Golden Rule. I would not want to be tortured for any reason. Therefore I would not torture others for any reason.

Jay,

Scorched earth policies committed by the Brits. Just as they did in Sudan and Ireland. Divide and conquer was their motto.

Also, I do know that immigration is in a mess. Am there. They do not have the resources or time to check fraud in which there is plenty of.

David f,

You don’t think the boat people would cause a problem? Really? They already have. The difference between the aliens in Australia and aliens in the US is that we have the unchecked Muslims, and they have many Christian Latinos in the workforce. Big difference!

The ones without documents end up staying here. Not good.

And I am aware of your biases.

david f - Everything you say people and countries should do to other people is good BUT America and its puppy dog (followers) are doing the exact opposite, even to there own people.

Examples, NSA spying, drone strikes on Americans and others without any trial to determine guilt not to mention the thousands of innocent civilians collateral damage.
You are more likely to die in America at the hands of the militarized police than by any terrorist.
This list of hypocritical things could go on for pages, but I am sure you are aware of the things but do not want to change your biased views

So the two Green posters agree that all men were created equal?
Created, really?
See this is why we make fun of you and call your movement a right wing,religious cult.
It certainly ticks all the boxes for a religion, low time preference behaviour (the idea that the greater value is gained over time), eschatology, the belief in an elect group (educated, thinking people of some means), belief in the supernatural(the eyes of the world are upon us), equality on the basis of divine will.

See that's the difference, if you don't believe in the supernatural you can't believe in equality, science shows us that nature doesn't do equality, so treating some people as disposable or torturing them can be scientifically rationalised and easily justified in materialist schools of thought.

"See this is why we make fun of you and call your movement a right wing,religious cult."
Jay, run off and play with your Hitler doll and forget about The Greens, keep believing Adolf was a good bloke, just misunderstood, and the Holocaust never happened, in fact forget WWII ever happened, it was a bad experience all round for your side, defeat is never pleasant. I have never met you, but I picture you as Heinrich Himmler's twin brother right down to the snappy black uniform. Your cohort Beach might be Hermann Goering double.