Dear o sung wu,

Please cite the statements you think are loopy. Maybe I will agree. Maybe I won't.

Hi DavidF, I share the sentiments of o sung wu, "the Greens would do a reasonably good job protecting our natural environment, our flora and fauna. Where they seem to drift into the more bizarre areas, is amongst the other political decision making that's nothing to do with our environment."

It's exactly that, that caused me to terminate my Greenpeace membership way back in the 90's. Greenpeace in New Zealand became so radical they were even disowned by Greenpeace International.

If the Greens would stick to their core values (ecological sustainability, social justice, grassroots democracy and peace and non-violence) I could be a potential supporter or at least a supporter in spirit. But I cannot support the loopy extreme Left that has evolved over the past 20 years anymore than I can the loopy extreme Right. It appears to me that feminism, gay rights/marriage, refugees, immigration, climate change and anti-Americanism have become the primary agenda of the leaders within the Green Party.

David F,
Robert Faurisson isn't a source, he's a reporter, all the same information is available to both orthodox and unorthodox historians.
In the end though the post WW2 narrative isn't about historical fact it's about imparting a set of values, the who what when and where are unimportant.
Look we all agree that the U.S coerces confessions through physical torture to support the post 9-11 narrative, the dubious nature of the confessions tendered at Nuremberg further supports the conclusion that this is the modus operandi of the intelligence services of the Atlantic powers and their allies.
Nobody is saying the Gestapo or NKVD didn't torture people then parade them before show trials before executing them, they most definitely did and there's a paper trail to prove it just as there's documentary proof of "enhanced interrogation" at Guantanamo, Bagram and elsewhere.
Confessions of misdemeanour from enemy combatants and treason from citizens are a powerful propaganda tool but the people who were being propagandised in the 1930's and 1940's were just as smart as the public today so confessions and trials have to be at least superficially plausible for the psychological effect to take hold. The prisoner must be made to actually submit to the captor's demands, in other words he has to be broken and these Al Qaeda guys are just as tough and resilient as the SS men in the 1940's.

ConservativeHippie wrote: It appears to me that feminism, gay rights/marriage, refugees, immigration, climate change and anti-Americanism have become the primary agenda of the leaders within the Green Party.

Dear ConservativeHippie,

I see feminism as simply equal rights for women – equal pay for equal work and equality in other areas. I see gay rights as equal rights for homosexuals. I see no reason why homosexuals and women should not have equal rights with heterosexual men.

On immigration I do not agree since I think Australia should not add to its population to any great extent.

Climate change is a reality that should be taken into consideration and dealt with.

I have not heard anti-Americanism from any of the Greens that I have met or dealt with. I certainly am not anti-American.

I think environmental sustainability is still the basic Green policy, and I don’t think we can have that without taking climate change into account.

I agree with more of the Greens’ policies than I do with the policies of any other party and therefore am a Green.

Dear Jay of Melbourne,

I don’t think Faurisson is simply a reporter. I think he is grinding the axe of Holocaust Denial in spite of the evidence that the Holocaust happened.

Hasbeen sounds as though he has no limits. He approves of torture. However, faced with the reality he might be a decent human being and refuse to torture. I don't know. We can say a lot of things that we wouldn't do when faced with reality.

David F, depends on your definition of holocaust, there's irrefutable evidence of thousands of people being driven away from concentration camps to remote areas in Poland then shot, of hangings and firing squads. All the requisition forms for trucks, buses, ammunition etc and the orders to carry out mass executions have been examined in minute detail.
Some of the SS men and camp guards who were summarily executed or tried after the war were guilty of murder, there were some pretty gruesome characters in their ranks but the confessions and eyewitness testimonials which make up the basis of the orthodox holocaust narrative have been de-bunked over and over again yet still repeated.
The most recent is the risible Sturdy-Colls report on Treblinka which fell apart as soon as it aired:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBcX3NDcXw

Hi there DAVID F...

The main issue in terms of being 'loopy' attributed to Ms HANSON-YOUNG; where she demands, that all refugees currently held in detention, should be immediately released into the community, without first being subjected to a thorough security screening, in order to establish their bona fides, and eligibility for refugee status ?

Moreover, I would respectfully suggest Ms HANSON-YOUNG is utterly reckless, and really quite ignorant for 'not' considering even the most basic safety prerequisites of the community, by advocating such an irrational and wholly foolish process. All for the purpose of satisfying her own unappeasable urge to be acknowledged as the great altruist to the cause of unconstrained immigration. Apparently, to the complete exclusion of her fellow Australian's safety considerations.