Foxy,

You are too institutionalised. As William F Buckley once said (of whom you actually quoted once in a post):

“I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.”
William F. Buckley, Jr.

“Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples' money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other people's freedom and security.”
William F. Buckley, Jr.

at then end of the day if you ask 95% plus of Muslims their opinions of the Jews you will know that their is little hope of co existing in peace. Much much blood will be shed but thankfully it has not caught the God of Israel by surprise. Secularist will continue to stick their heads in the sand thinking they are smart enough to ignore the God factor. The reason they stick their heads in the sand because ultimately they know they are part of the problem and have no answers. Ultimately peace can only ever come from the Prince of Peace and that certainly ain't Obama or Abbott.

Thanks, Yuyutsu,

I am glad someone is reading it.

Foxy.
I read the article you linked to in your last post and if muslims really want to be part of our society there should be more such expressions.

There should be more like him and less like the critical audience that were on Q and A last week. I want to hear muslims saying things like 'let the radicals go to fight overseas and then cancel their passports, we do not want them back here' I want to hear their leaders condemn IS and its atrocities. I want to hear the moderates expose the radicals, so they can be charged.

Sadly, I may just be wishful thinking.

@Jay Of Melbourne LOL you are talking BS...

You obviously don't know the history, it was a cold war between the west block and east block, Indonesia is still in a neutral position at the time(but a little more inclined toward the west), but the presence of Indonesian Communist Party (the largest communist party outside China and the Soviet Union) make America a little nervous, so they initiated to eliminate this party of Indonesian politics!.

here is an article about this..

https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/35901

INDONESIA: How the West backed the massacre of a million people

By 1965, the PKI had three million members and was said to be the largest Communist party in the world outside of the Soviet Union and China. In addition to its large membership, about 15 million people had indirect connections to the party through their membership of peasant associations, labour unions and other social movement organisations led by PKI members. It was, according to a September 1, 1965, US National Intelligence Estimate, "by far the best organized and most dynamic entity in Indonesia".

and about the Aceh girls, for your information...

mas·sa·cre

noun
noun: massacre; plural noun: massacres

1.
an indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of people.

verb
verb: massacre; 3rd person present: massacres; past tense: massacred; past participle: massacred; gerund or present participle: massacring

1.
deliberately and violently kill (a large number of people).

side note: if you read the news please not just the headlines.

Msnsjunior, selamat siang,

The murder of three girls, merely on the grounds that they are Christian, sounds something like a massacre to me :)

One feature of a 'massacre' might be that the victims and the murderers do not know each other, their relationship, such as it may be, is NOT a personal one. As well, relevant characteristics of victim and murderer clearly separate them - one may not so easily speak of a 'massacre' of three Muslim girls by Muslim men, or three Christian girls by Christian men, that (if it occurred) would be straight-out murder - the religion or ethnicity in those cases would not be relevant.

An 'assassination' has similar features of differentiation and lack of personal familiarity - perhaps a relatively small 'massacre' could be more appropriately called an 'assassination'.

So these three girls were, in that sense, assassinated, by men who they didn't know, from another religious group. Armed men butchering three defenseless young girls - that could be another way to describe what seems to have happened.

Either way, a mark of a brutal, pitiless and uncivilized society.

Joe