As you can see by the number of posts on this Forum caring for your feelings & the feelings of all moslems in Britain the best thing you can do is start a movement persuading moslems to leave Britain & move to any Middle Eastern Country. Indeed, you should move to, post haste.

I'm sure the British Government would help you out in that regard. Unlike the Australian Government that is forcing Moslems who want to leave Australia to support their Brothers to stay in Australia, against their will. That is just so wrong, don't you think?

Australia is just like Britain,so full of paedophiles, rapists, drunks, wife beaters, criminals, druggies, Christians, & worst of all, "Atheists." The schools are teaching things like Maths, & Sciences, & they don't even read their own Bible. Australia is a disgusting place, just like Britain.

If I was a moslem I'd be suing the Australian or British Government to let me leave. I'd get a good payout which would come in handy to help your preferred Charity or the ISIS.

The only personal experience I have had with Muslims were neighbours from twenty or so years age. Quiet people but they did raise a few eyebrows in our street when they had a large gathering, no not a birthday, a female circumcision ceremony. Their two or three year old girl.
I also looked up the link posted for Wissam Haddad to find his writings edited and gone..
Question please Foxy. Are presentations by Abdulu Saeeed open to non Muslims/general public. I have seen him only once in an interview 'women are pieces of meat''Muslims will take Australia' Sorry if not verbatim but the main components are there.
This quotation also raised my curiousity: 'Four male witnesses are needed to prove adultery''very rarely committed in public'Are the witnesses for both men and women?

And more curiosity. Moslem families wanting to flee Australia, as well as Wissam Haddad, claiming he and his followers will surrender their Aus. passports if they could leave without being incriminated.'
Why the sudden urgency to leave and what would they be incriminated for?
I will try google and get myself updatde. Gathering more insight amd facts to consider the posted question.

Dear Jodelie,

Your reference to women and meat and attributing
that to Prof. Abdullah Saeed is wrong. A Muslim
Cleric - Taj Din Al Hilali made a reference to
women as - "uncovered meat." Women who didn't wear
a veil - thereby attracting sexual predators. This
cleric is no longer in Australia. The Muslim Community
in Sydney got rid of him.

Prof Abdullah Saeed teaches at Melbourne University and
he has written for and teaches both scholarly and
general audiences. He is very involved in inter-faith
dialogue between Muslim and people of other faiths.
He also inter-acts and teaches business and other
organisations. The following link (which I gave
previously) gives his background:

http://www.abdullahsaeed.org/about-me

I hope this clarifies things for you.

The voice of Iftikhar is the voice of the enemy which has established such a virulent bridgehead in the West as to be running Moslem madrassas and demanding that the dhimmis pay for them in their taxes.

Instead of fostering the Islamic bridgehead the West and the accompanying police state to control it, if it doesn't want to lose the benefit of centuries of struggle for human liberty, needs to chop this bridgehead off and send the imported enemies of freedom back to the kennels they came from.

These are the steps:

1. Acknowledge and reaffirm the Enlightenment as a turning point in making Western countries desirable societies TO which to migrate.

2. Acknowledge the rejection of the Enlightenment as making Moslem countries desired societies FROM which to migrate.

3. Require all residents, imported or not, to commit unequivocally to the Enlightenment right of every human being to adopt, practise, promote, obey, disobey, reject, sever connection with, ridicule, blaspheme against any religion or cult whatsoever.

4. If any resident shows any signs of disrespecting any person's right to the above civil liberties exclude him/her from the country.

Such a fightback for freedom could start with an adjustment to rules governing right to enter or re-enter from abroad.

jodelie,

RE: Prof Abdullah Saeed

You might like to have a look at this
<<Saeed said the Qur'an and Hadith also set specific conditions under which harsh punishments, such as chopping off of hands and flogging, can be meted out on a convict.
"These conditions," he said, "would make it very rare for such a punishment to actually be given to anyone in real terms." For example, four male witnesses are needed to prove adultery (sexual intercourse), which is very rarely committed in the open, he added.
"The Qur'an is about justice, and so is the purpose of Sharia," Saeed stressed.>>
http://themediaproject.org/article/shariah-law-compatible-human-rights?page=full

It does seem that Prof Abdullah Saeed is not as moderate as some would like us to believe. It is clear he is Not opposed to harsh Sharia punishments. He mere argues that they would not be a regular occurrence.

Prof Saeed's explanations should be taken
in their correct context. However some people
are merely interested in
condemnation than in explanation. Prof
Saeed is not a radical Muslim. He is a
scholar trying to explain issues to non-
Muslims as well as Muslims. Things need to
be taken in their proper context.

When a scholar
begins to look critically at the
times in which traditions existed, context, or any
other considerations and how they apply now to our times,
then of course the product becomes unacceptable for
one or another camp of readers. The same applies to
historians. It exemplifies the arguments of those
who insist that there is no such thing as "objective
history," or arguments about emotive issues such
as religion.

Prof Saeed has always stressed that Australian
Muslims share the democratic beliefs.
To respect the rights and liberty of others and to
respect the rule of law.

It is terrorists and radicals
who do not acknowledge the rights and liberties
of others. And ti is the terrorists who don't
accept the fundamentals of what Australia is and what
it stands for.

In this country we are asking all of our citizens to
subscribe to a framework that can protect the rights
and liberties of all. These are our values.
And we are very clear on this point. They are not
optional. We expect all those who live in this country to
subscribe to them. Loyalty, democracy, tolerance, the
rule of law. The values of Australia and its citizens.