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The Forum > General Discussion > The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

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It is easy to say" Go back to where you came from", but do not forget that British Muslims are actually born and educated here. They are in the unenviable position of trying to combine two different worlds. That is no easy. We do not want to change you lot but we would like to see our children getting balanced Islamic education along with National Curriculum. We would like our children to learn and be well versed in standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time we would like our children to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village.Bilingualism is an asset but British schooling regards it as a problem.

We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life. According to a study by COMPASS, Muslims born and educated were given the impression of outsiders. The perception among Muslims is that they are unwelcome in Britain is undermining efforts to help them integrate into wider society.

It is often quoted by the Western media that Muslim schools ghettoizes the children, and even lead to their radicalisation if they are not integrated. There is no evidence that faith schools lead to a “ghettoized education system.

A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children out numbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism.
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http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
Posted by Iftikhar, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 12:26:57 AM
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Iftikhar
In an earlier post you stated that there is no place in a muslim school for a non muslim child. That is an extremely racist statement, so your own words prove you are also a racist! How can you possibly equate that with becoming multicultural?
English society has had a status quo for many centuries, so naturally they think differently. It has been THEIR country and they have developed a way of life which suits them.
The only place I can think of where multiculturalism and multiracism works well is Singapore, and that is because it has been led by a very strict government, their common major language is English, and everyone has to work for their money because there are no free handouts.
Had England had the same rules, I would suggest that there would have been far, far fewer people making for their shores. Again if they adopted the same ethos as Singapore has, I would suggest that many people would opt to leave for a country which would welcome a fellow muslim once the freebies dried up in England.
If there is another explanation you can offer for so many opting to choose i.e.,the English climate over another more welcoming country, I would be pleased to hear it from you.
contd.
Posted by worldwatcher, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:15:14 AM
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It is unfortunate that children of muslim migrants to England feel unwelcome, but for that one would have to blame the parents who have refused to integrate in English society. In Australia for example, the children of Italian migrants were encouraged by their parents to integrate and adopt the Aussie way of life, while still retaining their cultural identity in their homes. There has been no conflict with migrants of all nationalities here until the recent influx of migrants who are Muslims.
Now we have started to see the same problems as they have in Europe, and we not only don't like it, we won't allow our peaceful way of life to be disrupted by the confrontation of those who want to change us.
If you don't believe this, look to history - the proof is there.
Those who come here have to learn to adapt to a way of life which suits us. Without integration we will have conflict. Multiculturism is a myth, but multiracism can work - and only if religion is not part of the equation.
Posted by worldwatcher, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:30:21 AM
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Iftikhar cannot see that he himself believes in segregation and is himself racist.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:30:46 AM
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Here's another two links to add to the discussion:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-23/brullleaders/44400

And -

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2014/07/11/4043888.htm
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:37:53 AM
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@ Foxy, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:37:53 AM

Your 'drive-by' dropping of links is a sly and cowardly attempt to label Iftikhar's critics as 'islamophobes' and 'racists'.

That is how the prevailing systemic political correctness derails and blocks debate. Political correctness is abhorrent and an affront to democracy through forcing citizens, the media and even government leaders themselves to self-censor lest some noxious label be attached to them - which is exactly what you are trying to do to these posters here. You are not a 'do-gooder', you are a censor.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 3:13:37 PM
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