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The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

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If they keep wasting their ammunition resources up like that they will run out sooner or later & then the other side can have a go. Eh. IQ 0.
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 31 August 2014 9:23:53 AM
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Foxy>> Are you a Zionist?<<

Jayb>> No, actually I've never met a Jew, that I know of. I saw some funny looking ones in St. Kilda when I was visiting Melbourne once. Black hats ringlets & fur collared coats. Does that count?<<

Jay, Jews and Zionists are diametrically opposed.
As an example, the Zionists through the workings of the Rothschild family secured them Israel. But Jews believe that god banished and scattered them from their homeland until Armageddon, then god (and only god) will restore the Jews to a homeland.

You do understand that Zionists run the globe.
Zionists control the global banking and trading system. Zionist ownership and control of the American Federal Reserve, the mass media and the American legislature regardless of which party rules has made America nothing more than its protection and collection agency. Zionist America has equipped its police forces from state to small town with military weapons and assault vehicles.....megalomaniac Muslims or megalomaniac Zionists...take your pick Jay.

The Zionists have the majority to answer for regarding the current crop of megalomaniac Muslims.

Foxy, I would be content if every soul on this globe shared your civilized thoughts....but they don’t and never will, so we have conflict.
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 31 August 2014 10:36:49 AM
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SOG: Foxy, I would be content if every soul on this globe shared your civilized thoughts....but they don’t and never will, so we have conflict.

Unfortunately there are a lot of empty Kerosene Tins being beat by people with, "Rose' coloured glasses, a Latte in their right hand, a Daisy in the left & sugar Plum Fairies & Stars dancing sweetly around their heads."

I think we all wish the World was like that. It's like, Santa Clause, The Easter Bunny & Capote. They just don't exist, well..., I'm not sure about Capote. Those of us without the luxury of, whatever they've added to the Latte, have to endure the real World. Sad as that maybe.

Foxy, you didn't answer any of my questions. Don't be naughty & answer them, please.

Are you saying that Australians should also respect the Radicals right as well?

Do you think that these people, as I have suggested to Ifitikhar, would find an Islamic Country much more suitable to their feeling & would be better off moving there?
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 31 August 2014 11:04:41 AM
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Dear Jayb,

I thought that I did answer your questions
in my earlier posts.

I made it quite clear that in this country we have
one law we are all expected to abide by. It is the
law enacted by the Parliament under the Australian
Constitution. If you can't accept that then you
don't accept the fundamentals of what Australia is
and what it stands for. There are countries that
apply religious ahria law - Saudi Arabia and Iran come
to mind. If a person wants to live under sharia law -
there are countries where they might feel at ease.
But not Australia.

Before entering a mosque visitors are asked to take off
their shoes. This is a sign of respect. If you have a
strong objection to walking in your socks, don't enter
the mosque. Before coming to Australia you will be
asked to subscribe to certain values. If you have
strong objections to these values, don't come to Australia.
And if you do - you will be required to abide by our laws
and that these laws will be enforced whether you acknwledge
their legitimacy or not. This is omething that has to be made
very clear. It is not optional. And this also applies to
second generation - the children of immigrants who have
come to Australia. They must respect our values. We demand
loyalty, tolerance, and respect for fellow citizens and
support for our form of law and government - democracy.

No ifs and buts. All of our citizens must subscribe to a
framework that can protect the rights and liberties of all.
These are Australian values. We must be very clear on this
point. And we expect all those who come and live in this
country to subscribe to them.

I can't make it any clearer for you.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 31 August 2014 11:25:06 AM
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Foxy: I thought that I did answer your questions in my earlier posts.

Well, not really, it was a deflection. Sort of answer you get from a Politician.

MY Questions:

1. Are you saying that Australians should also respect the Radicals right as well?

2. Do you think that these people, as I have suggested to Ifitikhar, would find an Islamic Country much more suitable to their feeling & would be better off moving there?

Your answer Foxy: If you have strong objections to these values, don't come to Australia. And if you do - you will be required to abide by our laws and that these laws will be enforced whether you acknowledge their legitimacy or not. This is some thing that has to be made very clear. It is not optional.

As you can see. Your answer has nothing to do with my questions. They are really very simple & only require a, "Yes" or "No" to each. So which is it, "Yes" or "No."
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 31 August 2014 12:44:49 PM
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Is Mise writes: “4. If any resident shows any signs of disrespecting any person's right to the above civil liberties exclude him/her from the country.

“4. above would seem to negate a persons right to feel offended and as the offendee to give the offender a bunch of fives.”

The offendee would be breaching the law on assault and would be rightly punished for it. If it was to repay an insult to a sect or cult the assault would be a denial of the guy’s right to brush aside the offendee’s expectation that his cult (whatever it is) is protected from “dissing”. At Cronulla, many a Moslem copped a well-deserved bunch of fives for trying to silence BY VIOLENCE and by calls to violence the right to use a public beach wearing apparel their cult regarded as transgressing its pretensions of power. Likewise their demands in a Martin Place demo for beheading (rather more than a bunch of fives) those who dissed their cult and their paedophile “prophet” (in a crappy movie) demonstrated disrespect for the civil right to diss a cult. Outsky! One-way ticket. Especially when their co-religionists are executing people en masse for unbelief (let alone for insulting their “prophet”) and in some cases travelling from Lakemba to the Middle East to do it.

Of course this is different from dissing someone personally, or his/her family, or those of this or that genetic inheritance. Mildly regrettable if someone who does that cops a bunch of fives, but hardly something to make a federal case about.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 31 August 2014 2:24:12 PM
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