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The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

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Iftikhar,

I read your above post with understanding and a desire to help all Muslims that are in the predicament that you describe ref. schooling in Britain.

They should all migrate to a Muslim country where they can fit in culturally and practice their multilingual skills to their hearts content; the only downside will be finding a Muslim country that will accept them.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 30 August 2014 7:10:10 AM
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Iftikhar: Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling.
I would like to see Muslim children developing Cultural, linguistic and spiritual identities so that they could keep themselves away from western barbarity of anti-social behaviour, binge drinking, drug addiction, teen age pregnancies and abortion and lot of other evils.

You are spot on iffy. I feel that the best option for moslem children & in fact all moslems in Britain would be to leave such a terrible place & return or emmigrate to an Islamic Country as fast as possible. Especially with the growing "Britain First" movement gaining ground every day it must be hard for moslems, even Moderates like yourself.

I've posed you some questions a few posts back, Is there any chance that you could answer them for me. Being curious, your answers would help me understand Islam much better. Thank you.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 30 August 2014 8:32:27 AM
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Iftikhar
As a child I had religion crammed down my throat, and ended up believing every word as literal truth. In other words to a certain extent I was brainwashed. Nothing as intense as being forced to learn the holy book in order to recite it by heart, but looking back - yes it was definitely brainwashing. Then I grew up and started thinking for myself,and realised my young impressionable mind had been trained for years to believe everything I was told.
Now I find all religion abhorrent, especially yours. How any sane person can believe that being a martyr for the cause will be rewarded with virgins and rivers of wine in the next life is beyond my comprehension. With so many of your faith believing this, I would think that this promised land you believe in must be running very short of both commodities.
I also have to query why you live in a land which you despise so heartily. Rather than go on forums such as this to promote such a barbaric religion, your time may be better living in a country with like minded equally brainwashed people.
I also notice you are adept at evading answering questions put by forum members - just go on spouting how great your religion is, and how bad everyone who holds different views are.
Posted by worldwatcher, Saturday, 30 August 2014 9:53:04 AM
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Iftikhar,
You suffer with a persecution syndrome, British society is not all as you post. But since you are so unhappy I with others here suggest you would be better in a Muslim Caliphate State. ISIS is working to establish one. There you can legally rape and murder in the name of Allah
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 30 August 2014 10:21:07 AM
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Iftikhar
I forgot to mention that a 25 year old kid born here, but educated for most of his life in Saudi Arabia professes to have enough wisdom to call himself an Imam, and is hell bent on stirring trouble here now that we kindly [with pressure on government by his aboriginal mother] brought both him and his brother here. Maybe someone else can tell me where these boys father is too?
Do you ever answer questions?
Forums are for discussion, not for furthering your own particular agenda.
The average Aussie is happy to embrace this way of life. Why should the majority of us want to embrace a religion which would have us go back to a 600 A.D. way of life? The world has moved forward. It's about time your religion was overhauled to bring it into line with a modern way of life. Take off your blinkers and start thinking for yourself! And STOP trying to convert others that your way is best. Any enlightened person can see it is no better, and I think worse than many other religions. Have you investigated the teachings of other religions too? Probably Buddhist would be the most peaceful one to start with if you feel the need to have any religion at all.
Posted by worldwatcher, Saturday, 30 August 2014 10:28:17 AM
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Iftikhar,
It is obvious you cannot adapt to a democratic country, and prefer to have children brainwashed and under the control of Imams. This indicates that Britain is not your mother country and lifestyle choice. At least Britain has a justice system not controlled by religion, and school children are not indoctrinated in 7th century behaviors. All those abhorrent behaviors of the British exist where there is freedom of choice and not cohesion to conform. If they are criminal the justice system will deal with them. I also abhor such choices.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 30 August 2014 11:23:03 AM
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