Robert
I forgot.
The fact is Wendy did not post anything between the short hours that she paid the money by the way and him taking it. So the question is this?
If he had a problem why did he take her money?
Also he has been asked and asked to send a copy of this so called offensive post and has failed to do so?

I put it to you that Grahams problem is political and he does not like! the straight out approach to Church Leaders.
Its called a conflict of interest Robert.
No its certainly not your fault. I know you are just another poster .
I wanted to tell you the truth thats all because of yur comments earlier.
As well, another member who works with animal libbers might find it annoying to have us post. Remember we also protest about people taking money by way of rallies to the general public against people eating meat. We are main stream Robert. We do not beleive anybody has the right to tell others not to eat meat.
Ever wondered if that might have upset the other member?
I have.
Bottom line this is most unfair. I have contacted the minister for comminications myself about whats been said about muself and one week old daughter at the time. No licences are required to run a forum Robert. So yes this is political and its totally unfair.
If Graham thinks he can he is not going to have to return the monrey or allow the organisation to use the forum after paying eleven hundred dollars he is kidding himself.
Nothing gives him the right to keep a Not For P. organisations money Robert. Surlety even you can see that. What you take their ne thousand one hundred dollars then six hours later ban them??
Then why not refund! the money and! produce evidence the back up your claim
By the way if?? it were true a first warning is common as well. Many others have been really!

Ahhh, Robert. Here is a glaring problem with your idea, unless every thread has its own 'take it outside'

Others come in and havent a clue what your on about and are rudely treated by other posters. Things could end up quite ugly dont you think?

Wendy?? Is this some kind of running joke with you guys?

Anyway, I thought the idea here was to discuss an outlet for issues with a particular poster and take it off the thread, not a place to hide and flame people without their knowledge.

Pisces
Certainly Robert put this thread up to try to sort things out.
Not just say oh well too hard and anyway I dont want to get off side with the editor.
No your the one posting in a name that other than your own.
Nor has wendy posted at all since she was banned.
Robert Wendy liked you so I wnt bother you anymore about this matter. You thread is a good idea. I can see it is only going t lead to them picking on you. Keep up your sensible ideas
Dont let others talk you out of it

I just want to set the record straight and give my opinion about the annual fee Wendy paid to OLO.

Even though I do think that personal matters as serious as this would be better taken outside, I feel that this will go on and may become a bigger problem.

Can we look at it without personal accusations or involvement- from a legal or logical point of view?

I looked at the information available and merely on basis of this info without having had a chance to look at OLO's (Graham's) side of it, I cannot see why Wendy should not have her money returned, or at least most of it. (I repeat I only know Wendy's side of things- and as RObert says, there might be things involved to keep in mind from OLO's side as well)

In all fairness,
* If Wendy paid annual fees to OLO and
* only hours after paying she was expelled, and
* she was expelled before she posted anything new, and
* she never had a chance to even use the service she paid for, not eve once, then
* she should have a refund.

As far as I know, any other business would have to give a customer or client a refund if the customer changes her/his mind within I think 48 hours.

Is that a fact? I thought there was a cooling off period involved in every deal we make, unless we sign something that states otherwise.
Am I wrong to believe that?

Since Wendy was expelled from OLO (the reason for that is not really all that relevant) she asked her money back within I believe 1 day.

Does she have rights to a refund, by law?

Celivia, I'm not confident enough in knowing the facts to get into the ethics of that part of this. If the version of the story Taryn tells is factual then I'd favor the refund option myself but I've not heard Graham's side of this.

In regard to the legals if Wendy did what I did then she probably made a donation rather than paid a fee for service. From the Support page "If you believe in what we are doing select one of the options below to make a donation." http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/membership/

My donation did not give me any extra privileges on the site, same number of posts and same word limits as other posters etc. If it was a fee for service then I would have expected to get something for it (600 words a post maybe).

Taryn thanks for that last post. Wish Wendy well for me.

Pisces, I think the same issues apply to the main threads as well. I've seen issues from one thread get taken across into other threads, some of the personal battles seem to go back a long way.

As far as I know seperate threads for different discussions is allowable within the rules. I figured I'd make a start and see what gets learned out of the exercise, it may not turn out to be a good idea at all but I'd had a guttfull of the personal spats on what could have been serious threads and this seems like it's worth a try.

OLO has apparently also considered the idea of being able to send a private message to another poster. I don't know if they are still considering it or what form was proposed.

R0bert

Cilivia, did you read the rules that you agreed to when you joined this forum? Most people probably don’t and I assume your friend Wendy didn’t either.

None of us have been charged or paid a fee to post here so I don’t quite understand your argument. There are options on this forum to make a donation but that does not give you any special services or rights over other posters. I believe there is an option to become a member of the OLO that links your website, maybe that is what she signed up for. Go up to the top of this page and click on Journal. Have a look under members and see if she is there.

I cant see anyway that her payment is related to being able to post when we all do it for free. As for being banned, she would have had to have done something. Have you seen some of the stuff on these threads that doesn’t even get deleted?

Maybe your friend isn’t being quite up front with you and maybe trying to save face?