Celivia, I think my crime has been to give Graham the benefit of the doubt both in the churches and animal welfare discussion and regarding Wendy's suspension.

Other than that I'm struggling to see why this anger at me.

I actually support much of what Wendy and her team claim to be working towards. I'm not aware of being deliberately rude (well maybe a bit on this thread) to Wendy, Antje or Taryn.

At least the thread is keeping this particular discussion away from threads with real topics.

R0bert

"At least the thread is keeping this particular discussion away from threads with real topics."
Hehe, I think there should be a thread called: "Arguments only"- but this one will do fine in the meantime ;+)

RObert, I think I lost the plot- there have been so many arguments on three threads I've been on: Church leaders, Animal Welfare and the Are Libbers Hypocrites threads, oh and now this one as well, and I hadn't really focussed so much on them- trying to skim through the arguments.

Celivia, I think my crime has been to give Graham the benefit of the doubt.
Yes, from the beginning you did support PALE's work. That you give Graham the benefit of the doubt is your opinion.

People, I really think it is a matter between Wendy and Graham, why would it matter what RObert or anyone else thinks

Cilivia
I hear what you are saying however no there has been a great injustice and I think everybody should not the truth.
Robert I have been over each and every post to you by Wendy.
Please show me where you say she made a personal insult towards you.?
In fact it is the opposite as Cilivia already pointed out.
On forums its true people getting into often heated differences Yes. However it was Wendy who was copping the personal abuse Robert not you not yabby not pig farmer. Even having good reason to lash back she stuck to her mission right the way though and on topic which was animal welfare.
I think this is a attack from people who dislike her comments regarding Churches turning their backs on animal welfare.
Its the Church again
Ok Robert show me this post in which you say she offended you?
Gee I have been offended insulted and ghad terribly things said aboiut me but Hey nobody even got deleted.
She paid eleven hundred dollars Robert. She was contacted by a person who posts regually and informed that Graham was writing private very insulting emails about her [ personally ] to this other poster. She she asked him to explain. What would you do?
There is nothing wrong with Wendy bagging the churches if she likes Robert about their lack of interest in Animal Welfare. Thats what forums are for.
You just dont like it and neither did Graham
So why not at least return her money.
How honest iot that. Show me one! post where she personally! attacked you or anybody else

TarynW, this is pointless. I've told you the detail of Wendy's minor insult to me (more to show that she does do that than for any other point). You don't want to see your own roles in the conflicts that have occured so I'm not spending any more time on that issue.

I don't have Wendy's money, I don't have any acess to it, I've never seen it. My involvement with OLO is as a poster and one small donation (I expect I'll do more over time), I have no involvement with the organisation at all other than thru my keyboard. How can I give Wendy's money back?

I also don't know OLO's financial structures, I hope that it is set up such that Graham can't use donated money for personal use. I also hope that there are some rules around what happens with donations.

That issue is between Wendy and OLO, nothing to do with me.

Sorry it ended up like this, we probably could have agreed on a lot of stuff but you are letting your assumptions about me get in the way of reality.

R0bert

Taryn, are you and Wendy one and the same person? You have an EXTREMELY similar writing style, it is most uncanny.

Robert
Wendy has not posted since she was banned. That was hours after he took her money. It was not! a donation it was eleven hundred dollars for a years membership.
I know because I was sitting in the office. We asked her to ask him if we could pay 6 months membership because of little funds.
He said no it was eleven hundred dollars for a years membership or nothing.
Because we were doing a petition against live exports we wanted to put it up on the membership forum so we paid. Well actually Wendy ended up paying it because I could not afford to put in that much and I told everybody that. My husband and I have just moved and had a baby so money is tight. I work for Free as Wendy and Antje Does. Antjes been banned too for posting the truth. Sorry if you feel we are against you. You are wrong. Actually yu were Wendys favourite so I dont know how you came to think that way. Yes we are out spoken about Church leaders not speaking out about animal cruelty but we never attacked people personally. Yabby and pig farmer did however and they still post. You call that fair? Laurie or Laura as you never posted regarding animal welfare why dont you mind your own business. No I am not Wendy and I am sick of people like you trying to still discredit her for simply helping animals.
No I am the lady that yabby posted I should rip my one week old baby off my tits!
I asked Graham To delete it but he wouldnt.
So be sure I have my own problems with Graham and I stand alone on that. Nobody came to my defence only Antje and she was banned because of it!