Dear Hasbeen,

It certainly will be a preventative measure for the health of your digestion if you decline to partake in my offerings so no more my good chap, doctor's orders!

Dear SPQR,

You wrote; “how is the fear felt by an employee of a business targeted by animal rights activists (for example) any less than the "fear" felt by Muslims on seeing anti-Islamic graffiti -- Or, a motorist/ delivery driver caught up in rowdy anti-globalist/G8 demonstration?”

Strewth mate. Really? If you can't see the difference then I'm not sure I can assist.

Dear runner,

Classic case of blaming the messenger and the victim. So no words about the fear instilled in by these actions upon a religious group?

Dear SPQR,

You wrote; “Has it ever occurred to you that you never, ever, respond to the questions asked?”

No because I endevour to ask all questions that are put to me, I just expect answers to those I put in return. If that doesn't happen I am happy to wait until it does. You put to me the following;

“How would you like me to vote for you?”

My answer: No.

My question to you is when you wrote; “yes there may have been attacks on Muslim communities and possibly even individuals “but”, there have also been horrific attacks by Muslims on western communities? Why did you offer up no condemnation of the acts I flagged, acts that happened on our soil and in our communities and why did you feel the need to place “but” in quotation marks?

As to your other remarks I think any abandonment occurring is by progressives from this forum, even the not so progressives like belly have succumbed. What use to be an interesting place of fairly civil discussion has turned into trench warfare. The fact that your 'gang' has become even more vociferous, more haranguing, more belligerent after an Abbott victory is not unsurprising and I know you lot count each person quitting as a scalp, but I am not going anywhere soon.

Cont...

Cont...

You are the one who is choosing to jump into bed with the likes of jay of melbourne and onthebeach, how are the fleas going?

Dear foxy,

Thank you for the link. Walled's statement about migrants being among the most hard-line anti-refugee groups was telling but this comment really struck me;

“Your question can you be an Australian and a Muslim at the same time is not actually a question for most Australian Muslims. At least it wasn’t until it became a big social question and they said ‘well maybe I can’t be’. People who are doing well, like small business owners running successful businesses, either born here or who came here very young, are telling me ‘I was integrated, now I’m dis-integrating’. That is something to think about, I think.”

The great concern is of course anti-muslim vandalism causing individuals and communities to withdraw to a greater degree from our societies. In a way these are acts of anti-assimilation.

Dear shockadelic,

Why are they different? One word – Kristallnacht.

Dear o sung wu,

I don't want to see people's hearts and minds legislated against what I do want is the poison peddlers and the inciters to be checked because I see their actions as a direct threat to my community. You want to bang on with your mates how little esteem you hold for indigenous people but you go screaming that sentiment out over the heads of my children at a footy match and either I go and sort you out or I call security and have you put a sock in it. Laws give security the right to intervene on my behalf, without them violence is far more likely, what do you prefer?

Dear onthebeach,

Again, victim, victim, victim? What on earth is a victim industry?

Dear rehctub,

If you voted for either of the major parties you are voting for multicultralism because both are strong supporters of it. I have on occasion voted for one or the other so yes I have voted for it.

DAVID/QUOTE..<<..To prevent a recurrence of the religious wars that had ravaged Europe..they wrote a constitution which did not mention God or Christ...and implied separation of church and state.>>

FROM/WHY..WE BROKE/THE LAW
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16224&page=0

DAVID SAID/TO A YOUNG CHRISTIAN..<<..Other western nations have followed that example, and there is a great degree of separation of church and state in many of them.>>

ITS NOT MY PLACE TO HIJACK HER THREAD TO REPLY
PLUS NO POSTS FOR TWO HOURS/ARTICLES
BUT TO SAVE DISTRACTING..A RIGHTFUL/BURST
LETS SAY HERE THE STATE HAS FULLY SUBVERTED/PERVERTED RELIGION
BU HOW TO YELL THE INNOCENT?

<<>.It is not Christianity that is the civilising influence. It is the separation of church and state that has limited the barbarism of religion.>>

as we covered..here..

<<The separation has also benefited religion. Christians and followers of other religions can look to their religion to challenge the excesses of the state. That is what Laura Vertigan has done.>>

so she thinks..she has done
but govt by giving/granting..the church charity status/iE GOVT BY TAX Exemptions..has installed many elitist agendas into our every charity licensed church..[the church of cod]..dont pay ceaser..YET GREASE THE SKIDS TO KILL OUR KIds/kill our innocence..and tax us to dead..so dead corperations/inc/ltd survive off our life bood

i have to obey the edict
should go to mradi-grass
but must work..must work

what if the sun just stopped shining/went away for a night and a whole day
what would that say?..or if life just stopped..one day..as the much rejected living wholly holy spirit sustraining us our ife..just cwent pon holy day

how do we make oiur heart beat/or find logic from the inputs of our senses..how to make the bone heal..or our skin regrow..but its easy to ignore our loyal god sustaining the sun to shine..the holy living spirit..in life fully in-formed..from within..what if they went away..on sabbath..because we forgot.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16225&page=0

@Steele,

Firstly, let me protest that the second quote you attributed to me was not from me. Must the head shots you've taken that have made you a little punch drunk!

Re the matter I DID post -- tell me how do you gauge fear levels?

I mean, if an employee of a business comes in one morning to find graffiti sprayed all over his/her workplace entrance to the effect that we of the SteeleRedux Animal Liberation Group hate what your employer is doing and we are going to bomb the place or post you Anthrax virus. His/her level of angst is less than that of a Muslim who sees the graffiti:"Integrate or F off"

Or an aged war veteran who went through the horrors of war but turns up on ANZAC day to find sprayed across the war memorial "All men are rapists" would feel less angst that the of a Muslim who sees the graffiti: "Integrate or F off""

To quote your good self:<<Strewth mate. Really?>>
They certainly programmed you well!

Some Muslim fanatics probably did that graffiti because they're desperate for an excuse to villefy the bad australian racists. Remember the Mabo grave dessecration ?

Foxy says; <<Any explanations would be a waste of time to a conceptually and ethically impaired person>>

Translation: I could NOT find anything on New Matilda to link to that might even half answer your challenge, so I will side step out of this one "meet you on another thread".