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'As a multicultural society, we should take a very dim view of this sort of behaviour'
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Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 April 2014 6:25:42 PM
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"I think a case can be made that Islam is no worse than Christianity or even Judaism for instance. But your proposition is rather that Islam is far more violent therefore incompatible with Christianity. I am happy to listen to why."
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 19 April 2014 5:25:58 PM Because Christians are not Muslims. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 19 April 2014 6:41:04 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
I don't think that the tens of thousands of Muslims who fled the Christian Militia in Central Africa to neighbouring Chad and Cameroon would agree with your take on Christians. Google what's happening over there for yourself. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 19 April 2014 6:56:42 PM
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The Virtue..of Kindness
According to Quran and Sunnah WWW.MUTTAQUN.COM The Noble Qur'an 3:159 And by the Mercy of Allah,..you dealt with them gently. And had you been severe and harsh-hearted,...they would have broken away from about you;..[so pass over (their faults),..and ask (Allah's)..Forgiveness..*for them;] and consult them..in the affair.[issues]..Then when you have taken a decision,..[together][..put your trust in Allah,..certainly,..Allah loves those who put their trust..(in Him mercies and grace). The Noble Qur'an 42:43 And verily,..whosoever shows patience..and forgives [yes].that would truly be..from the things..recommended by Allah. The Noble Qur'an 31:17-19 O my son!..Aqim-is-Salat..(offer prayers perfectly), enjoin (people)..for Al- Ma'ruf (Islamic Monotheism and all that is good),..Verily!.These are some of the important commandments ordered by Allah..with no exemption. And turn not your face away..from men[with pride, ..nor walk in insolence through the earth...Verily,..Allah likes not each arrogant boaster. And be moderate..(or show no insolence)..in your working, and lower your voice...Verily, the harshest..of all voices is the voice..the..(braying)..of the ass. Hadith - Muslim & Bukhari "Allah is not kind..to him who is not kind..to people." Hadith - Tirmidhi, Saheeh... "He who does not thank people..does not thank Allah." Hadith - Abu Dawud and Tirmidhi "Those who are kind and considerate..to Allah's creatures, [to these]..Allah bestows His kindness and affection upon them. ..Show kindness to the creatures on the earth so that Allah may be kind to you."] If the concept of divine unity..dominates the mind,..it is the principle of divine compassion..that rules the heart in Islam. Contrary to the harsh stereotypes..of Islam - fostered both by fanatics within the religion itself, and by biased critics - the culture of this religion is steeped..in the ambivalence..generated by mercy and compassion,..[BY]..expressions of divine love. ..This spiritual culture issues from heartfelt conviction that God is to be taken absolutely seriously when he declares in the seventh chapter of the Koran, "My Mercy Encompasses All." http://www.iqrasense.com/allah/the-need-and-importance-of-allahs-mercy.html Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 April 2014 7:23:33 PM
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Anyone who tells you that ALL religions have a comparable amount of blood on their hands must have learnt their history at the local multicultural centre. [Kumbaya My Lord... let’s all join hands]
Islam has by far and away the most bloody history, but it's fortunate in that not many in the West are aware of it. So while people like Foxy and Steele et la are ever ready to waxy lyrical and long about the crimes of Westerners, they don’t even want to hear about the dastardly deeds of Islam ---it would spoil their little fantasy. Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 19 April 2014 7:38:26 PM
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Hi there...
From my point of view, I believe I've exhausted all that I wish to say on this issue, to a point that I've probably thoroughly bored anyone who wanted to read my any of my opinions. I guess we all adhere resiliently to our respective positions, therefore any further discussion would prove pointless I think ? Accordingly, I'd like to bid you all a very good night, and thank you. Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 19 April 2014 9:26:16 PM
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And there will appear..to them..the evils they had earned,
and...they will be enveloped..by what they used to ridicule.
Indeed,...you are to die,
and indeed,..they are to die.
Indeed,..We sent down to you..the Book..for the people
in truth..So whoever is guided -it is for..the benefit of.his soul; and whoever goes astray..only goes astray..to its own detriment..[And recall..you are not a manager..over them.]
He creates you..in the wombs of your mothers,.creation after creation,..[so how are you averted]?
He created the heavens and earth in truth..He wraps the night over the day..and wraps the day over the night./.and has subjected the sun and the moon,.each running..[its SEASON]..for a specified term...Unquestionably,..He is the Exalted in Might,..the Perpetual Forgiver
So worship what..you will....besides Him." Say,"Indeed, the losers are the ones who will lose themselves..and their families on the Day of Resurrection...Unquestionably,.that is the manifest loss."
Do you not see that Allah sends down rain.from the sky and makes it flow as springs.[and rivers] in the earth; then He produces thereby crops of varying colors;..then they dry and you see them turned yellow;..then He makes them [scattered] debris.
Indeed in that..is a reminder
[for those of understanding]
That Allah may remove..from them the worst..of what they did and reward them..their due for the best..of what they used..to do.
And when Allah is mentioned alone,..the hearts of those
who do not believe..in the Hereafter shrink..with aversion,..
but when those..[earthy messengers]..other than Him are mentioned,..immediately they rejoice.
So who is more unjust.than one who lies about Allah
and denies the truth..when it has come to him?
And if you asked them,."Who created the heavens and the earth?"
they would surely say,.." Allah ."THUS Say,.."Then have you considered what you invoke..besides Allah ?
If Allah intended me harm,..are they removers of His harm;
or if He intended me mercy,..are they withholders of His mercy?"
Say, "Sufficient for me is Allah ;
upon Him [alone] rely the [wise]