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Minister Morrison the Truth about Manus Island

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Belly,
It appears you and I now disagree on a couple of aspects regarding the illegal entrants.

I want to stop them coming because they get here by deceit and bribery, Jump our back fence and take advantage of our generosity by lying to our officials.

While the majority are muslims, some are not. I remember some years ago there was problems at a detention centre between the muslims and Christian detainees and I doubt if the Sri Lankans would be muslim.

So I don't like the illegals because they are cheats and con artists and I resent them conning their way here. Genuine refugees would come via the front door, safely by air, with any identity papers intact. I care not what their religion is.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 20 February 2014 5:19:48 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

You wrote;

“This time the locals may just have taught them a lesson, so one died that is a bit unfortunate, now we have to put some effort into digging a hole to bury him. They cause us no end of inconvienience!”

It appears I was about to put my foot in it. I intended to ask you if you knew that young man's name, if you knew his circumstance, from what horrors he may have been fleeing, if he was an actual refugee, if he had any family? I was also going to question if you had any humanity within you since your seeming callousness was so monstrous as to beggar belief.

But it seems I do not fully appreciate your sarcasm so forgive me. I'm working on it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 20 February 2014 6:04:23 PM
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Yuyutsu,
Very good points in your last post.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 20 February 2014 6:10:11 PM
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One question I will ask of you posters though, what do you think our Prime Minister meant when he said “We will not succumb ... to moral blackmail,’’?

Indeed what is moral blackmail?

“In ethical theory, moral dilemmas in which a moral agent is forced to choose between some number of wrong actions due to an outside agent are known as moral blackmail. Moral blackmail is a circumstance when an agent (A) is forced into a situation by an outside agent (B) where (A) is forced to choose between two or more actions, all of which are morally wrong. A popular example, perhaps the locus classicus, of such a situation is the theme of the book Sophie's Choice and is set up as follows: (A) is forced by (B), to choose which of her children will be killed by (B). If (A) chooses for one child to live, the other will be killed. If (A) refuses to choose, both children will be killed. In this scenario, no matter what (A) does, her choice will result in a moral evil occurring. To choose one child's life is to see the other child die, and to choose neither results in the death of both children at the hands of (B).”
http://www.academia.edu/1434094/Moral_Blackmail_Excerpt_

So does the PM feel he his being made to choose between two moral evils, if so what do we think he thinks they are?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 20 February 2014 6:13:22 PM
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Dear Banjo,

Here's a link that I'm not sure whether you've
seen previously:

http://www.news.com.au/national/taxpayers-wear-burden-of-60000-illegal-immigrants/story-e6frfkvr-1226200664868
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 20 February 2014 6:21:31 PM
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'Indeed what is moral blackmail? ' Just means he has seen clearly through the lefts hypocrisy who show absolutely no compassion for the 1000 plus drowned but pretend to care about the one shot.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 20 February 2014 6:25:20 PM
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