Dear Hasbeen,

I'm so sorry about your son.

Bad things do happen to good people.
And blaming just one sector of our
community is not fair. Blame the thugs
for this behaviour by all means - but
they are not just restricted to one group
of people. Thugs and criminals come from
various backgrounds.

I've written previously about my nephew who was
beaten badly by some young student thugs when he
came to the aid of a young girl student on his
campus in Lismore. My nephew was in a coma for
a long time and ended up with a plate in his head.
He was brain damaged and -
He'll never be normal. He now works for his uncle
in Sydney.

Paul 1405,
For once I agree with you but can you not see that this is a structural problem within Liberalism and Democracy?
What's more the Abbott camp and your side are both equally dishonest in dealing with the Asylum Seeker issue because you both misrepresent "those most vulnerable".
If you're to have an honest discussion about "those most vulnerable" to war, persecution and state or religious repression then you need to have both sides admit that those most in need of protection are men and boys between the ages of 15 and 65.
If the goal is to be fair and truly help those most vulnerable then you need to set aside liberal values and select candidates for asylum on the basis of their male gender and age and exclude those least at risk, women, infants and the elderly.
So the roadblock to "compassion" is misandry from both Progressives and Conservatives.
Ask yourself why Robert Manne and Julian Burnside haven't mounted a sex discrimination case over for example the gender disparity in grants of asylum to irregular arrivals by air?
That's of course a rhetorical question since we all know that both Progressives and Conservatives would have a fit if anyone tried such an approach because their goal is to feel good by adopting a safe and traditional women and children first policy, neither side gives a damn about "those most in need".

If you look at the photos of the rioters you clearly see some of the so called refugees with covering over part of there face, this is what a criminal does so they won't be identified.

I doubt anyone being attacked by people is going to stop and think OH I better cover my face so they don't recognize me.

Also to me this indicates they started the whole thing, they knew what they were going to commit a crime so covered there face.

You want the truth Paul, I doubt you can handle the truth, because the truth is, this entire waste fest is the creation of one Kevin Rudd, who, by the way, will be kept by us for the rest of his life. What a joke!

Jay, I read what you said, but how do you quantify, "those most vulnerable". One of the fallacy's about refugees is that there exists some kind of ordered queue and asylum seekers arriving by boat are queue jumpers. That would be so if a queue did in fact exist, when it clearly does not.

http://www.sbs.com.au/goback/about/factsheets/10/are-refugees-who-arrive-by-boat-queue-jumpers

My argument here is not about the rights and wrongs of these asylum seekers, it is about the base level we have sunk with our treatment of such people.

Paul your truth walks on Hasbeens equal truth.
And if we ever be so silly as to let both boat people and our own saboteurs win we will be traitor to our own culture/country.
I refuse to bend to unwanted and entrenched racism, from third generation Muslim Australians.
Racism? yes but no more than we are subjected to by such as the thugs who beat Hasbeens son.
If the boat people came from say England or Scotland, Ireland we would welcome every one of them.
Blame the behavior of Muslims world wide for our wanting nothing to do with them.