"The previous government sent over 1100 to their deaths. Senator Hanson-young simply said Too bad, accidents happen!"

Jay, does that statement qualify as a "appalling post". Attacking one of the Australian parliaments most humane persons, Senator Sarah Hanson-Young. Disgraceful that a few words by Sarah should be taken out of context and then extensively reported by the Murdoch gutter press! Implying that Sarah would be uncaring about the deaths of 1100 innocent men, women and children, what kind of monster would be so dismissive of such a human tragedy?

Paul,
Yes it does but I didn't see it so...
Sarah Hanson Young is a good person, you're a good person,
so am I, so are Individual and JayB and all the others.
Ms Hanson Young is also guilty of the same hysterical response when she talks about "Gulags" and "concentration camps", I've said some pretty silly things in the past and so have you but we can at least try to lift the tone of the discussion above "Nazi!" vs "Communist".
The outcome of World War Two was settled twenty years before I was even born, there's no need to hang onto the myths of the 1940's,they were created as propaganda to inspire and justify the deaths of the millions of people who fought the Axis and they have no place in the world of 2014. Tony Abbott isn't given to relativism, neither was Hitler, only a moral relativist could come up with such a statement.

I am not so sure we differ Banjo,I agree with every point.
But too wanted to look as out sliders will, at us from not our view point but theirs.
Who can deny if we had no Muslim enclaves and no middle eastern criminal gangs, we would still see the world.
And its problems growing daily.
Is Mise yes, agreed, and do not let them kid/lie to you, many from my side of the fence share our views.
Yes! within the ALP some condemn my view but truth is most agree.
Remember too, research if unsure prior to WW2 many told us Hitler was a great leader great man, even told us he was mans future.
I do not hesitate to predict many who chant the good side of Islam today will try to say they never did after the truth emerges.

When will we be told the true cost of boarder protection.
Who will tell us the welfare costs these people bring
And who dare tell us how long they have been receiving our welfare.

Jay,

Did you read my link on 'Moral Relativism', I did claim that Abbott was exercising a degree of moral relativism when referring to moral blackmail and how it relates to Manus Island.

The article said this;
"So for instance, assuming the majority of Germans in Nazi Germany approved of the persecution of Jews, then according to societal moral relativism, intolerance towards Jews was right relative to Nazi Germany."
Putting it into the context of Australia today and Abbotts thinking, I believe this is the case;
"Given that the majority of Australians approve of my governments actions in relation to asylum seekers. then according to societal moral relativism, inherently my actions towards asylum seekers detained on Manus Island must be morally correct, given I have the majority of Australians approval for my actions towards asylum seekers." Otherwise Abbott would have to think he is acting immorally and those with morals will not be allowed to blackmail him. I don't think Abbott thinks that way, but rather thinks he is acting with moral correctness

Jay,

Sarah is also a politician, and I don't apologise for any politician who uses emotive and sensational language, be it the word communist or gulag etc. All political parties require media coverage to get their message across. Nothing better that a bit of sensationalism from a politician to fire up the media and consequently some much needed coverage. No good being a shrinking violet hovering about in the background.
Fortunately, most of our polys don't take the cut and thrust from their political opponents too personal, unless they are Taiwanese polys, then they have a punch up in the chamber. In fact there is a fairly high degree of respect for each other amongst politicians, each understanding the other bloke has a job to do, and its not personal. Could you image an Abbott/Shorten physical punch up in the house, make for interesting TV.

Brilliant idea, the once a year 'Poly Punch Ups and Games" to be held on the Parliamentary Lawn. For gender equality Christine Milne v's Julie Bishop at jelly wrestling. We stick a hood on Mathias Cormann and as the 'Masked Marvel' he takes on all comers. The Labor/Liberal tug o' war. Bull riding and rodeo for Bob Katter and the Nationals, dwarf tossing, and since we no longer have a parliamentary dwarf, we will just use Clive Palmer. We could even have the Pete Slipper Memorial Trophy for team player and naturally The Craig Thomson Prize for best and fairest player, the prive could be a $500 parliamentary credit card to be used at the winners brothel of choice. Paul1405 your ideas are simply brilliant!

Here is an idea. All the people whose details were published are immediately deported? After all we cannot let them have their privacy invaded.
If they find the person responsible then the deported can sue him for damages. That is a lawyer's picnic I would like to see.