The subject is not new for me, a lifetime of seeing the very poor suffer pushes me to post threads like this.
I surf the webs news papers its a love thing news information and education.
Recent British press,try the free to read ones highlight an intention to cut that country,s welfare, deeply.
My younger years are far different than most here living amung the truly poor and working very early as eldest son.
My Heros remain the Jack Langs and the best of true Labor leaders.
I reserve a special place for those I tru ly loath,those who used Labor and its followers.
But its not just Labor I call on here it is both sides.
Some here have never seen or known a truly poor person.
Some never will, and some never saw a generation of welfare collectors who run with gangs or thieve cars supported by our dole.
It is no use being blind pretending its the other sides fault.
I hope my first post and words I used gets some to under stand Labor gives too much.
Liberals take too much
And that the coming reforms are good ones finding a middle course

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2544276/Benefits-Street-proves-reforms-right-says-Iain-Duncan-Smith-Work-Pensions-Secretary-says-middle-class-families-shocked-welfare-ghettos.html
This link reenforces the west is changing old systems.
The dailymail has multiple stories about current debate in Britain

Butch you said unemployment was going to get worse just as you said, but it did not happen the figures were near stable to improving for the whole period of labor.
With the change we will see a change for the worse. 60,000 have already been promised unemployment by our fearless leader, and that is just a start. They backpedaled from sacking public servants, the more they sacked the more they had to reemploy.
By the end of year we will have 10% unemployed, and that is true to form, we must have a surplus of unemployed for some reason.
Where will that put your welfare costs.

Ahhh well 579 & some others what you do note take into account is;

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY !

I dont know the backgrounds of any of our illustrious leaders. Besides them being good god fearing Christians. Which is irrelevant to my subject. Im sure there must be some who have had to work hard for a quid, been almost down and out, surviving on meager offerings and who has an understanding for the struggles, that we middle class, working class, less fortunate and welfare recipients, deal with on a daily basis.
If not how can they be fair and impartial when deciding who deserves what and who deserves squat, when they cant say 'been there done that'.
When those in power want to introduce a proposal why not include to a degree, input of those the decision concerns, who Have been there and done that. Impossible to include all those affected, but a couple thousand dispersed throughout the the state, should provide helpful information, maybe a little education, with their final decision.
Saving advantageous policies for election time, when they could quite easily be implemented now, has a fraudulent feel, a little blackmail perhaps. Someone confident in themselves and in what they have to offer shouldn't need a crutch.
Remember the polie lady who said '... she could survive for a week on a pensioners wage'. Id like to see alot of them do that. A worthy new policy, and if they can do it easily, maybe realize that they don't need $6000 a week plus perks.

If they are looking to save on social security then start with the indigenous welfare that gets fed through the poker machines and poured down the throats in grog or smokes in cigarettes and drugs.
Look at the enormous amounts spent on indigenous health.
Then look at the indigenous refusal to work or look for work. Look at the young caste indigenous girls who look for a baby to float themselves on the sea of public money.