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The Forum > General Discussion > Do we ban the religion, or just wait for the inevitable to happen here.

Do we ban the religion, or just wait for the inevitable to happen here.

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The Western apologist Dr Chloe Patton, cited by Foxy[1], fails like cultural relativists everywhere to question why it is that so many people, who have no animus towards any of the other wide variety of religious kooks, draw the line at Islam. She touches on many vile characteristics of Islam to which respondents to the survey referred, and asks readers to see this as a danger not of Islam, but of those incautious enough to seek a halt to the programme of giving it a protected bridgehead.

Shooting a girl in the head for campaigning for education for all? How intolerant to notice! Legislating for adulteresses (the "-ess" part is significant) to be stoned to death for adultery - whether married or not, but to be let off with 100 lashes in the town square if neither offender is a Moslem? A worldwide manhunt to track down and kill a writer who questions a murderous nutcase's story of hearing voices from the angel Gabriel? Legislation for torture and death for leaving the Moslem cult? Riots demanding dissenters be beheaded?

These aren't just the pecccadillos of a few "fundamentalists", they are the roar of millions upon millions of Moslems in service of their cult. They mean Western apologists are doing humanity a disservice by incessantly demanding we accept the sugar coating so not to be branded intolerant, or racist, or (most ridiculous) mentally diseased (phobic).

Anyone swayed by the “Islamophobia” libel needs to take on board Islamic scholar Raymond Ibrahim’s precise description of TAQIYYA [2] or read the final reader-comment to Dr Patton’s apologia[1]. Or just think a bit about Josephus’ succinct commentary on this list [3] and TAKE SIDES.

[1] http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/islamophobia-overshadows-bipartisan-multiculturalism-inquiry,5159

[2[ http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

[3] “Some people cannot recognize who / what is an enemy and when an enemy is in the camp. Secular Democracy is in direct conflict with Islamic Shari'ah theocracy - they cannot coexist. One will destroy the other.”
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 2 December 2013 10:16:01 PM
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Is Mise "If you are going to use a racist term then you'll get lumped in with the racists; tough."

You don't seem to mind being "lumped in" with slaveowners, invaders, colonisers and pirates, so your moral judgements mean $#!+ to me.

How is the term White itself "racist".
It's in my dictionary, and it doesn't note it as "Offensive".

You can't just define a word as "evil" just because some evil people use it.

What's wrong with "racism" anyway?
You'd need to define why *that* is wrong first, before you can say the term "White" is wrong.

What you call "racism", I call ancestralism, tribalism, nationalism, community, kinship.

This instinct is not intrinsically evil, and has enabled the many peoples of the world (who you feign to love soooo much) to exist in the first place and perpetuate themselves.

There would be no Tibetans, Zulus, Quechua or Egyptians if everyone throughout history had an all-inclusive "open door" residency policy.

Paul1405 "blanket banning policy... can not be justified or implemented"

White-only can be justified. We are a distinct people with our own ancestry and cultural heritage.
We have the right to continue as such.

And a White-only policy can be implemented easily: Facial scanning.

"It is also unrealistic to think that Australia will only attract migrants who will simply fit in, skilled, well educated people carrying suitcase full of cash,"

Most White people would fit that description.

"such people are not beating a path to our door."

Maybe because they know which people are, and don't want to live next door to them.

A White-only policy would actually attract rich, educated people wanting to escape the Multi-Hell emerging in other Western nations.
We could be the Noah's Ark of Western Civilisation.

onthebeach "When will Australian citizens ever get to vote on the 'diversity they have to have'?"

When did we ever ask for it?
Where were the protest marches demanding an end to "White Australia"?
Never happened.

Multiculuralists know well what the result of a democratic decision would be. A big fat NO!
So democracy can go to hell.
Posted by Shockadelic, Monday, 2 December 2013 10:17:14 PM
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Foxy my views in no way blame you or Paul for yours.
It is just that I disagree totally with them.
What religion, please stick to todays sins, has so divided the world and openly Murdered so many?
See I think with out reserve we MUST NOT TAINT our Multi Cultural country.
By in any way trying to compare the concerns with Islamic Migrants with that wonderful past success.
No similarity exist other than in the minds of those who refuse to look at what Muslim Migration in the 20th and 21st century has delivered.
To the western world
And will continue to deliver.
Take a second look at that young man in London hear again his bigoted words just maybe humanity's coming pain at the hands of some from this creed will sink in.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 6:36:52 AM
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belly..<<..What religion,..has so..divided/the world
and openly Murdered..so many?>>

medicine/drugs/booze/automobiles
im..not sure..their/religion..[but cops/killed more..people than terrorsist$]

get rid..of fox/tv.belly..[it lies]
BEWARE..of UN-speak
great/un-speak
http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/unspeak-words-as-weapons/

it..should-have..fitted neatly..into/the heading
http://www.thelonestarwatchdog.com/knockdown-game-work-government.html

its just..this time..you lucked out..you would..have/been..the sane voice/of moderation..but..were you really..what you/pretended..to be..[i would.say/leaving..is.. a key*clue]

its..a/shame really

/quote..<<..There is nothing wrong..with criticizing/the policies of the..Israeli government..>>

absolutely..govt's..can/must be..criticized
[or praised]..when..its due..

even/the next..bit sounds..'fair'

<<..If you..demonize Jews.in general
for..those..policies..you are an antisemite .>>

but what if you try to..shame/yankies..
/or shame blame..ALL*..islam/for..a few suicide nutters?

that's not-on either

<<<If you hold Israel..to a higher set/of standards.than any other nation..>>

we dont
IF YOU GOT NUKES
your EXPECTED..to play by the rules
http://www.vanunu.com/uscampaign/photos.html

FIGHT UNDER THE RULES..of war
[ah/la..neuremberg/trials]..and sadly..israel dont

<<and use/it to demonise
and ultimately..seek to delegitimise>>> palestein*

The wall in..question does NOT/
separate Israel and..the Palestinian West Bank.

According to..the United Nations Office..for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, “Some 85% of the Barrier’s route runs inside the West Bank,/rather than along..the Green Line” http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_barrier_factsheet_july_2013.

The Israeli/organization B’Tselem says the same
http://www.btselem.org/separation_barrier).

*Israel you are an antisemite .
http://news.antiwar.com/2013/11/29/tired-of-endless-talks-palestinians-want-push-for-recognition/

If you seek *to deny..*the national aspirations
and./right to statehood..of the PALSTINE people
while actively promoting the same rights..for I$REAL
,..that too makes you an antisemite...

It's..quite simple./really!
[yep]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrajudicial_killing

ooh well/pro-intel..didnt work..[this time]
sadly..the rest/of you..are doing..just fine

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/HollywoodIdea.php

sadly..both sides are 'dark-forces'
http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/usisraeli-iran-policy-remains-unchanged/

anything=pot/kettle
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2013/11/salafist-crimes-islam-syria/

its always sad..when..'neutral minds'
decide to leave..but you sounded like a nice harvey.[ela]

its just the facts are so horrid
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id406.html
http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/death-and-taxes/
http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=715863:before-and-after&catid=136:editorial&Itemid=1229

stanford..is still at/it

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/11/stanford-researchers-conducting-study.html
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

monsanto/too

http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/gmo-rat-study-retracted-by-new-journal-editor-from-surprise-monsanto-11302013

israel..is too
http://www.roitov.com/articles/ashkelon.htm

http://gilad.squarespace.com/writings/hot-off-the-press-nakba-ii-israel-is-testing-the-water.html

http://www.john-friend.net/2013/11/holocaust-survivors-demand-more-money.html

more poor u
http://rehmat1.com/2013/11/27/fbi-americans-hate-jews-more-than-muslims/

its/really..a fine..line

but..now..an..art

An exhibition..of art/from..{SURVIVOR}-inmates..at Auschwitz/during WW2..was on..display/in..NYC..in November 2013.

Which is..highly hypocritical..when you consider..that back-in 2011, an./exhibition of/art..from children in Gaza..was banned in California...*because..Jewish groups..*complained it*was "anti-Semitic".

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/5/25/20852/Arts--Culture/Visual-Art/Palestinian-children%E2%80%99s-art-exhibition-in-Californi.aspx

So,..maybe Germans/should complain..about the/current New York exhibit..as being.."anti-German"..and..have it..taken down!

semites..fighting semites
is semitism..[or a sign..of too much seminite..[inbred/trible fears gone-wild]

http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=716144:jesus-was-a-palestinian&catid=136:editorial&Itemid=1229

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=651130&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

http://mohawknationnews.com/blog/2013/11/29/fourth-reich/

http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Money_Changers_Serenade%3A_A_New_Plot_Hatches/30761/0/0/0/Y/M.html

OHH...and/watchout..for stux..type2
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/monstersamongus.php


<<..we MUST-NOT TAINT..our Multi/Cultural country>>

TOO..late*mate..[shut/the-gate]..the..fix..is in*.
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 7:25:58 AM
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Islamic fundamentalists recognize there is no cultural change to a society without resistance and conflict and sickening violence. That is the way it has been since Mohamed. That is to say that is the agenda of any ideological revolution.

They will use the culture of drunkenness and violence, rape and adultery to prove to society it needs to change to shariah law to deal with these problems in society. There is a cultural revolution happening among a section the young people in our society they have adopted lawlessness with no moral restraints. Too many boys and girls have been raised in fatherless families without example of male social responsibility. Islam will appeal to the male gene in our culture because it is about submission.

There are at least six ways to change a culture.
1. Purchase all assets and manipulate its dependents by laws.
2. Suppress all people in ignorance and install a leader / dictator.
3. Conquer it by direct aggression [war] and destroy its leaders.
5. Populate it with children of an ideology
6. Convert it by sound reasoning and education to an ideology.

The greatest value of our society is the freedom of the individual to act within responsible social boundaries.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 7:34:30 AM
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Josephus, I see contradiction there;
"Good Christians admire and follow the Character of God as Christ Jesus revealed Him; and those that call themselves Christian and do not live by that character must be condemned and repent."
Since the time of Christ. the Christian God has not been seen as staid and inflexible, but rather fluid. For a very long period of history the Christian God was the vengeful god, always at the ready to smite the wrong doer. At some stage the vengeful god was replaced with the kind and loving god that is portrayed by the majority of mainstream Christians today. The teachings of Christ are very much fashioned by man to suit the prevailing philosophy. I find it inappropriate to condemn and demand repentance from those who are failing to adhere to the latest populist version of god.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 7:42:55 AM
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