Dear SPQR,

I have a book called "Atrocitology" by Matthew White. It enumerates mass killings in various circumstances. The section on religious killing lists as the greatest one the 20,000,000 who died in the Taiping Rebellion (1850-64), a messianic uprising of Chinese Christians. You may be right in what you cited. The number of those who have been killed in conflicts is often hard to come by. Whatever the validity of claims for the numbers killed in religious conflicts missionary religions at various times in history are responsible for much slaughter. Zoroastrianism is possibly the least offensive. They neither missionise nor accept converts.

davidf,

Jews don't missionise nor do they accept converts easily. The convert has to establish that he/she is serious and committed about conversion. This is not because of any particular belief that Jews are superior, but due to the realistic knowledge that Jews don't have an easy time of it - even nowdays.

Dear Danielle,

Jews are reluctant to missionise not only because of the disability a Jew might suffer but because of a lesson in Jewish history. King Herod is remembered as an evil person by both Christian and Jewish viewpoints. Over 2 millennia ago Judaism was very much a missionary religion which even resorted to forced conversions. The Idumaeans were forcibly converted to Judaism. King Herod was an Idumaean. After Herod Jews became much more wary of converting people to Judaism.

However, unlike the Zoroastrians, Jews accept converts if they appear sincere and do what is necessary to convert.

America claims that Judeo-Christian values and beliefs are the foundation and driving force behind their social and political system. As a society their overriding motto is “In God We Trust” the Judeo-Christian God of course. Is it not reasonable too conclude that these Judeo-Christian values and beliefs have been the catalyst behind America’s past and present actions to subjugate peoples of the third World. It is constantly claimed that the US is obligated to deliver “Freedom and Democracy” to all. I assume that by default that it has to be delivered to those who do not presently embrace the American ideal, the non believers. What form does this f and d take for the non believers, the answer is simple, the one based on those Judeo-Christian values and beliefs that America holds so dearly. America is a society very much under the political control of organized Christian religion, with its extension to the industrial, military complex. It has been through a belief in the rightness of their Judeo-Christian values and beliefs and its comfortable fit with Capitalism that there has been an overriding US desire to impose the same on others, without any real success. That desire has lead to the destruction of millions, 2 to 4 million in Korea, 3 million in Vietnam. and in more recent times 1.5 million in Afghanistan, 500,000 in Iraq.
The notion that the mass destruction of societies by people through Christianity is a thing of the dim distant past is not true. It may not be as obvious as the Christian Crusades of 11th to 13th centuries, but Christianity is still very much a part of a modern day crusade against the non adherents

david f, "An Australian regardless of his or her skin colour or religion is one of our people."

You're talking about citizenship.
'm talking about the *ethnic group* "Australians", who were, are and always will be White.
Just as Zulus were, are and always will be Black.
And Japanese were, are and always will be Asian.

*Ethnicity* has nothing to do with the constitution, citizenship or the legal system.
If a revolution destroyed the political/legal system tomorrow, there'd still be "Australians" (the ethnic group).

"The Holocaust where 6,000,000 were slaughtered because they were Jews was fueled by centuries of Christian hatred...Those who had become Christians were slaughtered by the Nazis anyway because of their ancestry."

Right. So the *Nazi* persecution was racial, not religious (like previous centuries), as they made perfectly clear.

Foxy, "We're now stuck with a government that believes in the politics of money, profit, and power."

Any money/profit seems important to you too, since you put lower wages above social stability.

"this picture is rather distorted, for it is based on what's newsworthy."

And every other ethnic/religious group has the same potential to be nastily "newsworthy".
So why don't we see nasty Finns or Buddhists in the headlines every day?

"The early months after arrival in a new country call for the greatest adjustment, not only for the migrant, but also for the local people who interact with the migrant."

Which is why it made sense to pick the people requiring the least "adjustment" (White Australia policy).

"The cuts in Queensland to hospitals...the same is happening in Victoria"

So we don't need to import any more nurses then, with so many unemployed.

Is Mise "I do wish that we could have a definition of what a 'white' person is, so that we could be all talking the same language."

Already did: People of European Ethnic Descent
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6098#176245

I rarely refer to "Caucasoids" or "Europeans", when I mean Whites (European ethnic descent).
Because there's Caucasoids from vastly different or unrelated cultural systems (Arab, Indian, Iranian) and millions of "White" people who don't live geographically in Europe.

Paul1405,
Your inference of American agendas to Christianize in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan is spurious nonsense.

All those countries present governments are not christian and accepted by the USA. It is freedom of citizens to freely choose their own future. Communism and extreme Islamic governments do not allow those freedoms.