Pretty much everyone knew, Belly.

>>Who knew before Howes interview Carr was to go<<

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/bob-carr-to-resign-from-senate-report/story-fnho52ip-1226715036317

And this is weak, Ludwig.

>>Not just looking for any old excuse to have a dig at someone you consider a really bad politician<<

Look at the facts.

Carr took no.1 spot on the NSW ticket having reassured the puppetmasters that he would serve the full six years. Two days after the election, word "escapes" that he will resign. Not, of course, that he would let this interfere with his taxpayer-funded junket in St Petersburg.

Taken at face value, it is not unreasonable to suggest that his stance on population control was also pure expedience.

I'm sorry if it offends you, Ludwig, but I regard Bob Carr as a prime example of what is rotten in Australian politics.

Belly,
I do not have a problem with Labor. In fact I voted for them for over 50 years. I have a real problem with Sussex Street running the show and the internal union corruption.
At least with the LNP I know their base motivation is money.

<< I'm sorry if it offends you, Ludwig, but I regard Bob Carr as a prime example of what is rotten in Australian politics. >>

It begs the question Pericles: who do you think is/was a good politician that is not an example or a person entrenched within what is rotten in Aus politics?

It might be a bit of an aside to this thread, but I’d love to know.

<< Taken at face value, it is not unreasonable to suggest that his stance on population control was also pure expedience. >>

Huh? Expedience from what? Expedience to where? I mean, no one in his political circles was interested in population control, so what did he stand to gain from espousing it?

Clearly he was expressing heart-felt views, which flew in the face of Labor doctrine, and any political doctrine for that matter, and would have won him no friends in those circles.

He expressed concern about that sort of stuff, over a period of several decades, because he knew it was the right thing to do.

Ludwig,
If I recall correctly, concern about the growing Australian population was not the reason Carr wanted to reduce the immigration levels.

As Premier of NSW he was concerned that Sydney was getting the bulk of immigrants which was causing his government housing and infrastructure problems. If he could have directed the immigrants elsewhere, that would have made him happy.

So it was expedient for Carr to advocate reducing the immigration levels.

Carr is and was and in a git. End of story

If nothing else the thread is a window on how we view politicians.
No less for my views than others.
As most know I have taken the axe to many on my side of the fence.
But consider my self a true blue Labor person.
It may pay my party to understand others think like me while making that claim.
Because you can bet on it many do think like this.
Carr was Streets ahead of Wran, yet many will say that is not true.
Wran was a thief, nearly as bad as Sir Robin Askin.
Well no need to defend my views or Carr history will do that.
Every time our Senate comes up it will bring debate and yes anger.
But in this so called place of the states representation, now just a joke.
Why are places filled but not by an election.
I thought a time had to pass after an election, or one had to beheld?