Pericles I mostly find your comments more right than wrong but while my view carries no more weight than yours I saw a far better man in Carr
Carr had an intellect, had many interests he was the glue that held NSW Labor together when it started its decent.
Are you aware he gave this state, and was knifed for it, more National Parks than any one in our history.
Now to drag a man down , one that history will show great respect for, based on untrue charges/ignoring his age and right to spend his last years as he wishes? extraordinary stuff.
OTB, your comment says much about you, and nothing about this threads subject.
IF we all used threads to launch insults at people as you have what would OLO become?
Yes no need to tell me I know I can be harsh, but in rebutting comment made in a thread you blast an indignant heap of male cow by product at innocent folk not even involved in the thread at this time.
Forgive me but I learn from your rude style that you are a bitter person who respects only your views and remind you those you insult have been here for much longer than you.

Come on Belly, Carr "was the glue that held NSW Labor together" more like the axle grease that put Eddie Obeid in power. A bit of light reading for you. Its called Carr, Obeid and the Sussex Street Mob.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/09/paul-sheehan-on-bob-carr-eddie-obeid-and-the-sussex-street-system.html

Are you one of histories revisionists? Carr was up to his neck in it here in NSW as were Lemma and Keneally, the only one who made any attempt to stand up to the Sussex Street mod and Eddie Obeid was Rees and look where that got him. Thing haven't changed here in NSW under Robertson, he's got a few skeletons in the cupboard and is desperately trying to keep the door closed. Every time the ICAC comes out with a new report Labor politicians rush to have a read, for no other reason than to see if they have been named and shamed.
Fortunately there is one shining light in the politics of NSW, its called The Greens, our parliamentary members are fighting a constant battle with the O'Farrell government on behalf of the good citizens of the State. Where is the Labor rabble, nowhere to be seen, too busy infighting and trying to keep their heads down to avoid the chop.

Belly,

Some non-partisan advice:

For the life of me I don't know why anyone would see Paul Howes as Labor's great white hope. He hasn't a scintillation of charisma.

Labor's interests would best served championing someone else.

Folks,
Bob Carr hunts with the wolves and sleeps with the sheep.
He is the most derisive, cunning political pretender this country has ever produced.
For a socialist he is a great showpiece of capitalism and perhaps the finest exponent of nepotistic maleficence we have had to contend with in the political landscape of this country.
I say good riddance to bad rubbish.

Would not Ursla Stephens, the NSW labor Senator that did not make it this time, be in the running if Carr resigns.

I do not have any knowledge of how she performed during her 6 years in the place, but if she did OK then she would be a likely choice.

In other parties, the nomination is made by the state executive, so why not in the ALP. My understanding of the new Rudd voting rules only applied to the position of federal leader. The states should continue to nominate whom they wish for casual Senate vacancies.

Belly,

I will not dignify your rude remarks by responding to them.

However if as you say, you and some of your buddies have been holding forth on this site for years, you might care to explain how it is possible that you and they haven't managed to learn anything new to escape those mental ruts you occupy regardless.

Now, to return to the subject of the thread, you haven't as yet commented on Labor's 'leakers', of which there appears to be many. Are you talking about your mate Shorten et al? Or is this just another shot at making Rudd responsible as Labor's whipping boy?