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We got it wrong on warming, says IPCC
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Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 4:07:17 PM
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Good Lord, OUG is right, I calculate only a 28.8% increase! This affects the carbonate concentration which, in turn, affects the skeletal growth of zooplankton, which affects the ocean food chain, which affects humanity.
Sorry, OUG but these are the facts, whether you like them or not, as is that between 1751 and 1994 surface ocean pH is estimated to have decreased from approximately 8.25 to 8.14. Rather than die off on our own waste like organisms in a petri-dish, our superior intelligence should lead us toward avoiding catastrophe, but only man suffers greed that it clouds his intelligence. Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 4:19:12 PM
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Hi Grim,
A shift in pH from 8.25 to 8.14 'since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution' in a base-10 log system still wouldn't be a change of 30 %, would it ? Maybe somewhere between 5 and 11 % ? So a change from zip to zip+ ? From pfetty alkaline to fairly alkaline ? I'll ask your sidekick Poirot, she would know better than me. [Your cue, Poirot]. Thank you, Lexi/Foxy, but I thought the alarmists and doomists were more likely to put their faith in a god to rescue them from this modern-day Sodom like they think he did with Noah. Not going to happen. Uncertainty rules, and always will, There are no gods ): Love, Joe www.firstsources.info Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 4:20:53 PM
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Lucyface,
So it was just a huge co incidence that the smelters closed just as the government hugely increased their cost of business? There were many things that made their business difficult. Smelters live or die by the cost of electricity. The huge jump in bulk electricity costs by the carbon tax obliterated any chance of recovery. The same applies to Blue Scope's second blast furnace. Is there any less aluminium being made in the world? No, the production has just moved to higher emission plants in South Africa or Brazil. The net change in GHG emissions is an increase. Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 5:10:19 PM
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You really are going to remain in character even tho' the 3 year charade is over, aren't you, Shad? Go back to that link and have a read, you were almost believable, at times.
Do let go, it's becoming pathetic. Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 5:40:45 PM
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im noting patterns
http://12160.info/video/the-ipcc-exposed like tenfold..they love ten fold lest we forget..themoluscs..that stillhad shells and reefs that still had stored up c02/chalk..or better known as lime,,[that neutralizes..acidity..living inthat tenfold time loonmg past or the 95%..of the surveyed scientists [not ALL scientists..just 95%..who replied the surey are now 95%..certain..and we wonder why comment isnt allowed..lol http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-09/why-were-shutting-our-comments "It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion." -- Joseph Goebbels (1897-1945) yeah..pollution..is poisoning the oceons http://enenews.com/official-blasts-japan-govt-over-fukushima-such-immoral-people-let-radioactive-substances-freely-flow-and-said-nothing-while-contaminating-ocean-its-just-absurd-now-theyre-trying-to-cov its expected to reach hawiah..next year yeah polution..stop the polution..but wait? how..tax c02..get capitalists industry going in china those re-capitalized..bailed out brown-nose capitalista.. addicted to nice clean/green..[obscene]..free govt lobbied cash dont worry we will find..the hollow cause deny-ers http://www.blacklistednews.com/Scientists_create_DNA_tracking_tags%2C_might_soon_be_used_to_track_protesters_as_well_as_animals/29255/0/38/38/Y/M.html anyhow choose which ones go silent http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/websites-will-go-dark-if-the-government-shuts-down-tomorrow?xg_source=activity Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 6:04:19 PM
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will say..yeah..but
[we were talking about ions[not acidit
<<..30% in ion concentration in the world's oceans>>
but funny thing..is
the water is going down..by their own lie
we are heading not even cl;ose [yet]..to ''pure water..
BEFORE even becoming even the tiniest/..twaddly bit
even just..a tinniest bit..into *acid
long longg way to go
thats gotta be tenfold by tenfold
by tenfold away..by tenfold..ten..folds
hundred folds..of ph lowering..from where..we now are
now stop..ya lies..ya all..
make the spin..go away
you greenie capitalists..lobby..have been conned
big time..but..get even..dont get angry