now Flannery, Gore and co have an excuse for there completely false prophecies. Oh dear what a surprise. Any rain on the east coast lately. What a joke.

Belly,

The actual quote was ""The argument [behind climate change] is absolute crap." Remembering that at the time we were having claims from the green looney fringe such as that sea levels could rise by "up to 50m" by 2100 and other wild exaggerations, and now the IPCC predictions are out by nearly 70%, I would say that his comment was justified. Of course that does not stop people (such as yourself) misquoting him, and out of context.

Dear SM,

If you're going to give quotes, try giving the
full quote and the context in which it was made.
The following may help clarify things:

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2808321.htm

Foxy,

The quote is not contained in your post, only an incorrect reference to it by Kerry O'Brien.

So please feel free to provide the full quote and context.

I feel that climate change is real, but the hysterical chicken little approach about the danger and consequences have been over blown.

Dear Shadow Minister,

No. Kerry O'Brien does give the correct quote
of Abbott's with the addition that, "In other
words..." "We have to have a climate change policy
because the people believe its a danger, but I believe
it's crap." Your inference that Kerry is mis-quoting
is not correct. Kindly re-read the given quotes,
and the context.

Cheers.

Foxy,

I missed the first quote, so yes the quote is correct, but again, what you have is the quote said by Kerry O'Brien out of context with Kerry's spin on it following. TA did not say that climate change is crap as Belly suggested or Kerry suggested.

I read a very good article a few years ago in New Scientist specifically about the science of climate and the huge variety of effects that could accelerate or decelerate global warming, and the difficulty of modelling all these effects into the future.

A good analogy of this would be predicting the weather. Meteorology has improved in leaps and bounds. Accurate forecasts can be made of the weather tomorrow, reasonable predictions can be made of the weather a week from now, but weather a year from now is impossible. That climate change is occurring is not in doubt, but anyone that claims the science is settled is kidding themselves.

The certainty with which greenies dish out predictions as fact was, is and will be crap for some time to come.

It was pointed out to me that about 500m years ago CO2 levels were about 2000ppm (5x that of today) and life flourished and temperatures were not that different from today.