"Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the pH of surface ocean waters has fallen by 0.1 pH units. Since the pH scale, like the Richter scale, is logarithmic, this change represents approximately a 30 percent increase in acidity."

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F

Village idiots can google these days even if they can't remember their school science.

Grim,

Your response to the futility of a unilateral carbon price was puerile.

The world is not a democracy. The closure of Australia's smelters due to the carbon tax means that the smelting occurs at less efficient factories in other countries. The drop in emissions in Aus is often countered with a greater increase elsewhere as a direct consequence.

This futile gesture makes little to no difference to global emissions, but hurts Australians.

We don't need to worry about the environment.

God had promised Noah everything will be fine.
:-)

"The closure of Australia's smelters due to the carbon tax...."

The high AUD had far more impact on the bottom line, as well as highly subsidized power, than carbon pricing ever had. They're still sitting on carbon credits that are soon to become worthless. All discussed ad nauseum at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5207.

To blithely accept that Australia can not unilaterally, successfully, de-carbonize its economy is to completely lack imagination. Should we all just roll into the foetal position and suck our thumbs until the end comes?

You are right to target the fraudulent claim smelters closed as a result of Carbon tax.
What dark conner did that claim come from.
I briefly, looked after the internal reconstruction of one, now closed
And too at another still open.
Power was an issue ten years before thoughts of carbon tax.
If we want to tell the truth the high Australian dollar, as reported by owners of the one closed was the end, not as they said the tax.

never listen..to liars joe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH

In chemistry, pH is a measure..of the acidity or basicity
of an aqueous solution...Solutions with a pH less than 7..are said to be acidic and solutions with a pH greater than 7..are basic or alkaline.

Pure water has a pH very close to 7.

they try to..baffle with spin

<<.."Between 1751 and 1994 surface ocean pH is estimated to have decreased from approximately 8.25 to 8.14, representing an increase of almost 30% in ion concentration in the world's oceans.">>

but FAR FROM ACID*
its so pathetic..COMPOUNDED..by [plus the 30 percent..bullshhhhhoot]

you were right

<<30 % ? An decrease in pH from 8.25 to 8.14
is a change by 30 % ? I may be one of OLO's village idiots
- just ask Poirot - but I really can't get my head around that.>>

cause it;s THE NEXT LIE
hopefully they wake-up
but dont count on it

you must remember..joe..they not only.. fool others
they got sukked in by professional hookers
fooled their friend's/kids too

thus..cant see the joke..
its a sickness?

its just too sad really..like a drunk
wanting/begging just one more drink
cause he isnt TENFOLD DRUNK ..yet