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We got it wrong on warming, says IPCC
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 16 September 2013 9:52:01 AM
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Market gardeners pump CO2 into their green-houses/glass-houses in order to promote growth and a more efficient use of water.
Plant growth is a wonderful thing, it loves CO2. In the North, it seems that rainfall is increasing. Aboriginal communities in the North need - Warren Mundine and Noel Pearson suggest - economic activity. Trees suck CO2 from the atmosphere. Win-win-win: Fund Aboriginal unemployed in the North to plant a billion trees across the North over the next fifty years. Bit by bit, over the next twenty years, set up appropriate training programs to build small reservoirs on the flood-plains of the major rivers to trap water, set up nurseries, pumping stations, piping systems, to irrigate, drip-feed, a billion trees. Easy-peasy. Problem/problem/problem solved. No let's move onto more important issues like gay marriage, or which end of the egg to balance on. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 16 September 2013 4:44:56 PM
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The body of scientific knowledge at any particular
moment represents nothing more than the most logical interpretations of the existing data. It is always possible that new facts will come to light or that the available data will be re-interpreted in a new way, shattering the existing assumptions. Science therefore takes nothing for granted: everything is always open for further testing, re-interpretation, correction, and even refutation. Rigorous debate will now be undertaken and in this process new ideas will be fasioned, grow, aspects will be discarded, modified, and carried into the future. Science is a tumultuous roller-coaster of ideas, inventions, successes and failures. Human beings are gifted with the ability to make the world a better place, if they so choose. The other animals don't have that choice, they don't have the tools (language, writing, and archives from which accumulated knowledge can be sourced). If world population continues to grow rapidly, if industrialism spreads around the world, and if pollution and resource depletion continues at an increasing rate - and all these things happen - where is human society headed? The most optimistic answer would be that one way or another, sweeping social changes await us. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 September 2013 6:54:25 PM
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For mine I thank SM for putting this thread up.
It lets me say what is on my mind. By mid Abbott,s first term his statement climate change is crap. And his in truth no effort program will come back to hurt him. If Turnbull has not replaced him by then. Honestly held view SM not taunting. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 8:01:39 AM
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"That is complete fiction," Professor David Karoly, a review editor of the IPCC report at the University of Melbourne, told AAP on Monday.
He said the observed global average warming of surface air temperature over the last 60 years was 0.12 degrees per decade - almost identical to the 0.13 value reported in the IPCC report of 2007. The INTER governmental PANEL's computer got it wrong? Oh please. The IPCC collates the work of thousands of computers, owned by as many credible sources as they can find; including Australia's CSIRO. This is just another beat up by the flat earthers. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/09/16/20/31/scientists-slam-claims-of-cooler-climate Posted by Grim, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 9:26:43 AM
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Belly,
I think it more likely that the LNP will do away with the carbon tax and not implement any direct measures to reduce CO2, because of budget restraints. Secondly the Labor party will have dropped any AGW policy by the next election, because of no warming and current policy is not a vote winner. People continue to see the AGW advocates as alarmist and their claims not valid. Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 11:37:07 AM
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More importantly, according to reports in British and US media, the draft report appears to suggest global temperatures were less sensitive to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide than was previously thought.
The 2007 assessment report said the planet was warming at a rate of 0.2C every decade, but according to Britain's The Daily Mail the draft update report says the true figure since 1951 has been 0.12C."
It would appear that much of "overwhelming" scientific studies have been over inflated. Now is the time to review Australia's actions in the light of a world that is largely ignoring the problem, remove the world's greatest carbon tax and replace it with something more appropriate to the real issue and the actions of our competitors.