Dear runner,

Be careful not to confuse excellence with perfection.
Excellence, the ABC can reach for, perfection belongs
to a higher authority, as you keep telling us.

Perhaps the best that you can expect of yourself isn't
perfection but progress.

Lexi, "I am also very familiar with the "black" problem that exists in that country (US)"

Is that so? Then you should also be aware that not only is the lion's share of violence, including gun violence, black on black, but it is also black gang member on black gang member.

Also the violence is drug related.

So the message for the 'Progressive' elite is that they can help to reduce such violence but not buying their recreational drugs that support and provide the most profitable business for the drug gangs.

How about that? Something the 'Progressives' can actually do to make a positive contribution to society - just stop buying the coke and pills.

That would make Greens Protest Party conferences less of a hoot. However, 'if one child is saved it is worth it' as 'Progressives' are wont to say when directing others on how to lead their lives.

Should be, "So the message for the 'Progressive' elite is that they can help to reduce such violence BY not buying their recreational drugs that support and provide the most profitable business for the drug gangs"

Worth repeating anyway. It is completely lost of the thousands of well-heeled who buy their recreational drugs that without them there would be no $$ windfalls for the drug gangs who would then be starved of money.

Dear OTB,

Yes that is so. And, I've already stated the facts
regarding the problems faced by blacks in the US.
Kindly go back and read what I've posted. It will
save you duplicating information that's already been
stated.

As for the "Progressive" elite? Are you talking about
Celebrities and their documented drug problems?
Could you be a bit
more specific - because in the US there's an awful lot of
them - and I'm not sure that they're all on coke and pills.
I do know that drug abuse is a huge problem there - but
do enlighten us with your information and sources.
I'm sure everyone would love to hear what you've got to say.

As for your reference to the "Greens Protest Party?"
Who specifically are they? I'm not familiar with them in
the US. Or are you now back in Australia and having another
go at another political party (instead of Labor this time)?

For someone who regularly spruiks Greens Protest Party opinion word for word and oft repeated, your claimed ignorance is not convincing. Rather than tread the Party line supporting offenders and providing excuses for their awful choices -no-one makes them do what they independently choose to do- what about you answer some of the questions already posed in the thread? Poor, downtrodden, disadvantaged or however you might describe offenders, they still chose to commit their dreadful crimes, whereas others in similar situations (poor, disadvantaged), do not and never would commit a crime

Why is that so? To learn from the US experience, what does it say about managing the risks of the diversity-we-have-to-have and our recent extreme multiculturalism policy that encourages separateness of ethnic groups within mainstream society and maintenance of imported traditions, priorities and imperatives?

Speaking of which, it is a fact that immigration policy once ensured that there were no ethnic enclaves set up. Where that policy and the advice of DOFA and the Immigration Department were ignored, as for example by Malcolm Fraser, or where migrant intakes were floods that overwhelmed official scrutiny, serious social problems have resulted in the form of crime waves from gangs and toxic traditions have become established (as is the risk with FGM for instance).

Fraser was warned on Lebanese migrants,
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/cabinet-papers/fraser-was-warned-on-lebanese-migrants/story-e6frgda6-1111112763458

Immigration introduced organised crime, including criminal gangs such as the mafia or East and SE Asian gangs, eg., the Vietnamese 5T in Cabramatta, Sydney. That is not to oppose immigration, but it recommends transparency, forthright identification of the risks and appropriate and robust risk treatments.

You don't like to discuss the negative consequences of the Left policies you promote and would prefer to divert discussion to 'gun culture' instead, as you tried to do first up. A superficial but usually effective ploy to divert discussion away from the risks of overenthusiastic diversity and extreme multiculturalism. However there are parallels in policy mistakes with the US that cannot be ignored and it is doing a lasting disservice to Australia to avoid discussion of them.

Dear OTB,

Let me see - it's all the fault of:

1) Multiculturalism.
2) Greens Protest Party.
3) "Progressive" elites.
4) Left politics.
5) et cetera, et cetera.

We all get it - you've got it all figured out.
Deterring crime is one free shotgun at a time - problem
solved!

Can't wait for your next "expose," and solution.