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Dear Poirot,

Thanks for the link.

It confirms some of the thinking
that I experienced having lived and
worked in the US for over ten years - as well as
having a cousin who was a detective in the LAPD
and prior to his retirement worked with troubled
teens. I am also very familiar with the "black"
problem that exists in that country. A problem
that many outsiders couldn't even begin to
understand - never having experienced anything
quite like it
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 23 August 2013 12:39:19 PM
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Jay Of Melbourne I can not understand why you have not been struck down by lightning for even holding such views, let alone expressing them.

I have seen it in many places, that when a group can blame anything but themselves for their failure they will.

There is a report that these gangs are now making such drive by shootings part of initiation for members.

Still some people suggest we should rehabilitate, rather than eliminate the filth.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 23 August 2013 12:56:48 PM
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Dear runner,

I don't know of anybody with an ounce of intelligence
who would be stating that it's OK to be racist no matter
what colour you happen to be or anyone who would say that one
colour is good and the other is evil. It's mainly people
who are not very well educated and simply have very fixed
ideological views that think that way - and then they
of course tend to see things only from a very fixed
ideological viewfinder - on every single issue and
discussion (no matter what the topic) that comes along.

Talking about the discrepancies of racism... American
President Obama has been called an "Oreo Cookie."
Actually that cookie is a "bi-racial" cookie.
You've got 3 of the chocolate wafers and then you've
got the white vanilla cream.

Still, Republican congressman, Doug Lamborn, of Colorado,
stated that working with President Obama was like
"touching a tar baby," perhaps the congressman didn't
know that the term "tar-baby" was a racial slur.

Then we have the NYPD officers who complained about
West Indian Carnival duty in Brooklyn on Facebook,
and then disparaged, belittled, and dehumanized them,
despite the fact that the NYPD fired more shots on
the day of the parade then any parade-goer.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 23 August 2013 1:17:23 PM
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'It's mainly people
who are not very well educated and simply have very fixed
ideological views that think that way - and then they
of course tend to see things only from a very fixed
ideological viewfinder - on every single issue and
discussion (no matter what the topic) that comes along. '

I thought most working for the ABC were educated and yet
you describe the presenters and guests on the national broadcasters perfectly.
Posted by runner, Friday, 23 August 2013 4:00:07 PM
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Hasbeen,
Thanks, I think LOL.
Back to topic though, the Lane murder isn't really a racial issue, just like the Martin/Zimmerman affair wasn't a racial issue...until the race Hustlers got hold of it.
There's no equivalent outcry, no "Jog for Chris" or run on Chris's favourite lollies or soft drink, firstly because White people have more sense and have the intellectual capacity to see things as they really are and secondly because they're not as conformist as Blacks.
People have expressed alarm at the disparity in the seriousness of the reaction but that perspective is informed by a belief that all people and all groups of people are the same and will react in the same way in a given situation.
Race is real, it matters.
There's also the fact that White people have nothing to gain from going on TV stamping their feet and running off at the mouth about "Racism". David Duke does speak out but he lives in poverty more or less whereas Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Mark Potok, while just as disreputable as Duke are well off and lead comfortable lives.
Similarly Oprah and Barrack Obama have plenty to gain by sticking their oar in on Black causes, ie money in the case of Ms Winfrey and potential Democrat voters for the next election in the case of Obama.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 23 August 2013 4:49:47 PM
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A thoughtful article from Time by John McWhorter:

"Don’t Ignore Race in Christopher Lane’s Murder
The association of young black men with violence doesn't come out of thin air"
http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/?iid=ent-main-mostpop2
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 23 August 2013 4:59:15 PM
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