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Posted by platypus1900, Thursday, 22 August 2013 1:04:26 AM
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boredom, guns etc. why do we find an excuse for something so evil. Maybe we are in denial.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:10:21 AM
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does seem that finally some of the press have had their pc shackles broken.
One of the killers quoted as saying 'he hated white people '. Can't say I am surprised. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/chilling-911-call-details-final-moments-of-melbourne-baseballer-chris-lane8217s-life/story-fni0fiyv-1226700172461 Posted by runner, Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:15:27 AM
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platypus,
"no no...we must not even say horrendous things like 'these murderers should be shot or hanged" Not if we believe in the God-given absolute ethic of "the sanctity of human life". Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:30:15 AM
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Dear Bec,
Thank You for understanding my earlier post. My intention was not to label, or finger-point but to try to broaden the discussion in our attempts at looking for answers to this tragedy. I thought that regardless of the motives for the random killing - the severe restriction of private handgun ownership in the US could perhaps be raised in instances such as this tragedy and the loss of lives that they cause and grief to families. We all know that in international terms, the United States is an extremely violent society, with a homicide rate far exceeding that of any other industrialised nation. A single American city like Chicago, Houston, or Los Angeles records more murders in a typical year than does the whole of England, where even the police do not normally carry guns. Most other countries severely restrict private handgun ownership, but there are at over 60 million handguns in the US - and weapons of this type are used in more than three quarters of the tens of thousands of murders that occur each year. I am not blaming the guns for these crimes. To suggest that is not logical. I am suggesting that perhaps Americans need to look at the liberty being granted to the individual in not having stronger laws on handguns - so that deviants do not continue to abuse the freedom currently granted to them by American society. It seems like a high price for American society to pay, and I'm sure that in this particular case - the families of the deceased just may agree. Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:44:11 AM
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@sus
you left out the impt fact in singapore, disciplining of the child, yes even 2 yo with a teeny weeny cane or spanking is expected of a parent yes, it is lawful until it becomes childabuse and no busybodies will poke his/her nose into anyone else family...again unless it is abuse ok ok... some lost soul here will say the cane is a weapon LOL i was told, one of the worse shame a parent can have hurled at them is their children are not well brought up many of them told me, these white kids should have been spanked instead of having their exasperated parents pleading with them to behave the british vet from manchester is right in saying she would have spanked the badly behaved kid if she was the mother so much for the badly brought up aussie kids we have here Posted by platypus1900, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:36:16 PM
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the tragic loss to their loved ones
i guess he is dispensable
we must look at how the 3 murderers should be rehabilitated
we must study if society was at fault
we must see if their parents were too lenient
we must examine if their parents caned and spanked them which in turn started this violent streak in them because of emotional scars
we must NOT blame the gun ownership policy because we love our individual choice (never mind if a poor aussie student got killed)
no no...we must not even say horrendous things like 'these murderers should be shot or hanged"