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Posted by individual, Monday, 26 August 2013 8:32:31 PM
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While the prosecutor has ruled out race crime charges it would appear there was enough evidence to investigate this path of inquiry from one of the perpetrator's facebook page.
Whether the actual shooting was triggered by hate of whites or just an act of boredon or initiation into a gang is anyone's guess. The court trial will no doubt shed some light on motives. Everything else thus far is just media speculation and opinions. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/23/prosecutor-no-race-motive-in-shooting-of-australian-in-oklahoma/ If I can add, based on some comments, that understanding why crimes occur and some of the social or demographic factors is not to excuse or rationalise murder. Understanding these crimes is must one part of the process in seeking to reduce crime. However, it is not JUST about understanding why, but doing something effective in response to that information. Sadly, this does not happen too often because the findings may suggest major changes warranted in the way societies function, what values we hold dear at a personal level and what values are prioritised at a policy level. For example: the way children are raised, inequities in access to opportunity etc. It is rarely just one thing but many complex and interrelated factors. And these may differ across nations and cultures. Posted by pelican, Monday, 26 August 2013 8:47:00 PM
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I can not get myself to think/believe otherwise that the greater percentage of crime is due to insufficient punishment. There will always be those who, in the heat of the moment don't rationalise & then commit a crime or do something that is then seen as a crime by those who don't do anything about curbing crime. In general however, the lack of punishment is the key contributor to crime, courtesy of western Law.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 6:25:18 AM
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'Whether the actual shooting was triggered by hate of whites or just an act of boredon or initiation into a gang is anyone's guess. '
your post is very reasonable Pelican although the line of killing someone through boredom wears very thin. Today people have computers, sports facilities like never before, skate parks, ipads, mobile phones etc etc. Much local crime is blamed on not having enough to do and yet their is more money and more to do than any time in history. Posted by runner, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 9:31:11 AM
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Yesterday I placed my shotgun on the front porch, gave it six shells, and noticing it had no legs, placed it in a wheelchair to help it get around.
While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the boy across the street picked up my yard, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near my house.
After ten hours, I checked on the shotgun. It had not rolled outside and it had not killed anyone in spite of many opportunities that have been presented.
Can you imagine how surprised I was, with all the hype about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people ? Either the killing is by people misusing guns or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. So, now I'm off to check on my spoons, because I hear they make people fat.