Oh come on, as if he really canes a 2 year old child:-)

You guys are so gullible.

For a start, a 2 year old would not need any response other than distraction which is pretty easy. 'Hey look over there', then they have forgotten what they were last doing.

Then again I suppose those nappies are pretty thick, you would have to hit them pretty hard on the bum for them to even feel it.

You'd have to have a good aim to hit their hands with a metre long cane.

Anyway, you would think people would get with the times, there must be all sorts of electronic devices to shock them with these days.

The interesting thing to me is the adults. How must they feel just after violently abusing a small child.

Prize for the sickest sentence:

'after the punishment, i ALWAYS give them a hug and i will always ask them if papa loves them
they will say yes (not much choice there) ..and that they were punished because they were naughty'

"Don't you want people to love you?
My spanking, that's the only thing i want so much...

Because you get closer to the person...
Closer to the person...
Why is that better than being hugged?
Because you get closer to the person...
Closer to the person...
Just like a person having sex feels cared for...
We wanna be loved, so we have sex together...
And they feel loved about that...
And this is the way it makes me feel...loved...
I want it, i dream about it, i think about it, i want it...
Just like a girl wants sex with a boy, you know?
It's the way i'll always be probably...
My last one was born in the system...
See, they're stupid, very stupid, those people over there...
They're stupid...
These people are so below mentality, honest to god, really...
You know what i mean, he got the nerve to bug me...
This mentality, honest to god, really...
Hey foxymophandlemama, that's me...
She prides herself on her cleaning habits...

It's a lovely stupid mop, it is...
There's something really screwey about no streaking...
Is it any old dumb mop? it streaks...
Come on mop, no streaking mop...
I don't mind mop the floor, my mop streaks, i don't like it...
It's not me, it's the mop...
Come, i bought some new mops...
Go away you stupid, dumb old sponge mop...
I don't believe it...now the floor looks beautiful...
In two weeks, before she could see herself not dressed...
The twenty-third of may...you know she disturbed no one today...
The manager told her to completely forget...
If you ever go to bed, i'll kill you...
Do i tell the whole world that i'm mentally ill?
Go to the papers...yeah, why not?
Drum roll...
I want to show them that i can walk on my own without hands of theirs...
And, i can still fantasize, but i keep it to myself...
Keep it to myself...keep it to myself...
I think i deserve to be loved, don't you?
Very much so...
Think i deserve to be loved...
Keep it to myself...keep it to myself...

Do you ever think that you actually would kill yourself?
Well, if i have thought about it real, uhh, real deep...
Yes, i believe i would...

any fool can see that after 50 or 60 years of permissive parenthood has resulted in the most selfish generation in our history. Violence, hatred, selfishness, greed, drug usage and idolatry prevail. And to think the godless have the arrogrance to lecture those who discpline their children. Unbelievable.

runner,

On the contrary - the criticism is directed at how people discipline their children.

The popular conclusion, it seems, from those who are "religious" around here, appears to be that if infants and young children aren't regularly caned or whipped with a strap, they will grow up as delinquents.

I can't work out why my kids (who weren't caned or strapped) are so well-behaved....?

@poirot
i note you have a habit of using colored words and painting such horrific pictures
INFANTS?
WHIPPED WITH A STRAP?
no no... I do not cane infants
do you really think i am out of my mind
2 yo are not infants
our children were NEVER punished when they were infants...not even a harsh word
they only get lots of love and attention

my view is a child at 2 knows more than you think
my children speaks when they are 11 mths
by 24 mths, they were already reading
they cannot reason like you
they do not read psychological books like you
but they sure can understand when they are punished.

if a light stroke of a cane on the palm will teach my young chidren they cannot mess with power points, fire, or wearing plastic bags on their heads as headgear, i will.

better that then a dead young child.

what i dont seem to understand is why do you insist i must follow your guidelines ie..how old is old and how methods i should use?
isnt it enough we agree on the broad issues like
a. as long as the child can recognise discipline and punishment when they are old enough
b. absolutely no injury to the child
c. no uncontrolled spanking or caning in a frenzy etc etc?

@hou
who said it is a meter long cane?
and no...it is not spiked with barbed wires
and definitely not laced with salt

"sickest sentence"?
i differ
my children understood
perhaps not you?
they tell me know with a big laff
"dad...we knew we deserved the punishment"

Hahah

'Violence, hatred, selfishness, greed, drug usage and idolatry prevail.'

Violence: Hitting 2 year olds with the cane.
Hatred: Of non-believers
Selfishness, Greed: Baby boomers personified:-)
Drug Usage: Woodstock anyone?
Idolatry: What, looking up to god? Hahaha.

Same as it ever was.

My kids have had about half a dozen smacks in their lives, luckily for them mostly on their nappies. They're amazingly well behaved, people are always asking how we do it. I tell them it's not me it's the kids.

Maybe those 6 or so light smacks were bloody persuasive.

I believe kids vary greatly on how easy they are to handle. The scary thing is the kids that have more challenging personalities are more likely to be trained with violence:-)

The easiest way to control kids I reckon is sleep, good food, routine, consistency, and showing a good example. In that order. It's amazing how many middle class parents ignore sleep and routine, and are a bit anal on the food. Nobody is totally consistent but some try harder than others.

I have seen people who don't smack, but are constantly screaming abuse at their kids. I think that's probably more traumatic for some kids, while smacking is more traumatic for others. I would have preferred the smack as a kid because its over and done with and less emotionally charged than verbal abuse.

It is in the 'how' of discipline...

'The popular conclusion, it seems, from those who are "religious" around here, appears to be that if infants and young children aren't regularly caned or whipped with a strap, they will grow up as delinquents.'

Rather, it seems, the harder you hit them the more you must love them! Or, it's ok to thrash them while making them tell you that you still love them.