@belly

may we continue to voice our views to the leaders of this country
lest we end up with the vocal minority the last say and we all suffer

look at how the Green party became the king maker because the majority does not speak up and we end with a hung parliament

we should have one seat in the parliament reserved permanently for the Green Party

the woman (wondering why even the successor who is groomed to take over is also a woman?) who can then champion the frogs..the toads..the gays..the whales..the boats

we promise to listen

"I discipline them when they are from 2-12 years old
After that, the canes are thrown away.
They are then old enough to reason with."

More likely because then they are old enough to give you a smack back. Like I did to my old man when I was 12.

@mikk

you did that to your father?
and you are so proud of the fact?

:(

I watched over the tv last week of australian doctors trying to get spanking of children outlawed.
platypus 1900,
They're obviously just standard morons instead of real Doctors.
Discipline is a Law of nature & no academic moron can change that. Oh yes, they try but let one of them try it whilst I'm present.

I think it is a bit late to avoid losing a generation. You only have to look at the behavior of young adults on the grog on a Saturday night to see that lack of parental discipline when young has lead to a lack of self discipline in adulthood.

How discipline is applied will depend on the child. My eldest would cry her eyes out if I really roused on her. Discipline on the rare occasion it was needed had to be applied carefully & gently.

With my son, you could have thrashed him to near death, with achieving anything. Restricting him to the house yard, or more extreme to his room until dark was usually enough. Missing cricket or football training was rather extreme punishment for him, & not often needed.

My youngest definitely responded to a spanking, & nothing else, until she was involved in gymnastics. Once she required someone to drive 25 Km each way, & spend a couple of hours waiting around, good behavior, & getting her chores done in return, worked as it had with her brother.

With some kids, a cane or a strap is the only way. I received the razor strop a few times, & am sure it did more good than harm.

"you did that to your father?
and you are so proud of the fact?"

No more proud than you seem to be of beating your kids.

Violence is nothing to be proud of. Violence against children doubly so.