I watched over the tv last week of australian doctors trying to get spanking of children outlawed.

Honestly, I am tired of such doctors and psychologist seeking fame the wrong way.
Come on, go do good to society and not seek fame by such routes.

Hear me out.
I am NOT talking about child abuse by parents who themselves are not well brought up or are drunkards.
Children are to be brought up in love and in loving discipline.
If God disciplines who He loves, why shouldnt mortals follow the example.

I have 3 grown up adult children.
The first is a PhD graduate.
The second is successful vet.
The third is a teacher in Chemistry.

All of them were caned when they were young.
I discipline them when they are from 2-12 years old
After that, the canes are thrown away.
They are then old enough to reason with.

Now they are all grown up with successful careers and happily married.
I asked them once in while if they resented the discipline.
If they had emotional scars that lasts a life time.
All of them laughed and asked me not to dramatise the matter.
"of course not, pa, we knew we were naughty and we deserved to be punished. the discipline did us good"

i read months ago how a young woman was taken away from her parents because they were trying to disciple her when she was young
she was quite a testy little girl then
she was fostered out by the State from one foster parent to another
she was abused by her foster parents
she eventually did drugs and then died of an overdose

the journalist who did that article visited the girl's parents and found them to be very "regular" family
one that the young lady should have been staying with in the first place... and be subjected to discipline by her OWN parents !
not the State decided foster parents

i pray our country will not go the way of the fashionable west of not spanking children ... and eventually lose an entire generation

Platypus>>> i pray our country will not go the way of the fashionable west of not spanking children ... and eventually lose an entire generation<<

Plat I believe that the whole fist words social makeup is being engineered by Fabians. Through the UN and other government bodies the child and the parents are to be separated from traditional roles. The rights of the child will morph into voting rights by 16 and the state will become the de facto guardians to all children.

It is not about the rights of the child it is about social manipulation and control.

The school syllabus in Australia is so “politically correct “ in focusing on “social rubbish” that our primary age children came last in a global literacy test last December. Last out of all the English speaking nations.

@sonofgloin

thks for the comments

let australia be known to hold on to our own values
not the west
funny that i should say that
but the word US is fast becoming a dirty word
their foreign policies are all about US interests...period
their domestic landscape is in a mess
look at how their citizens loot each other after the cyclone
see how the japanese behave after the tsunami and earthquakes
res ipsa loquitur

i met this kiwi on a ferry at cairns recently
he was so proud nz took the lead to recognise gay marriage
i told him straight in his face..."be proud of the right things, not moral decadence"

he must have thot he got hit by a thunder bolt

cheers

Hi platypus1900,

There will always be a fine line between what some refer to as discipline and others refer to as child abuse. But that should remain a personal family decision.

The issue for me is about the decisions my wife and I take on how we prepare our children for life.

There are those who for whatever reason, have not been prepared for life by their parents and there are those who for whatever reason, see their role as adjudicators on how other people bring up their children.

Throughout our lives we have stood by our principles and sought professional advice as needed however, we agree that today we wouldn’t go near these so called professions because in our humble view, most of them are not fit for purpose.

Add to this the raft of self righteous, nit picking, nanny state, arrogant, pontificating, PC driven, dysfunctional public busy bodies and you have a recipe for social discord.

Nothing makes us angrier than being confronted by someone who demands the authority to “mind our personal business”.

A pox on all of them.

Come the revolution bro’ we will burn them at the stake.

@spindoc

thks for the very balanced view
i like the post (except the burning them on the stake part..LOL)

our guidelines

a. never to cane the child immediately for any infractions
tell them they would be punished (and make sure you do)
let there be a span of say 10-15min before punishment
that way, you do not abuse the kid as you normally would in fits of anger

b. stick on to one form of punishment, either caning or spanking
some parents have preferences to spanking on the buttocks
some caning on the bottom
our (my) preference is 1-3 strokes of the cane on the palm of the non-writing hand
[my wife waves the cane like a witch waving her broom and never punish... waste of time and like a circus]
the stroke is always measured...enough pain but not to injure
my children (when they were young), were told NEVER to move their palms when caned as that may lead to unintended injury

c. my children always know why they are caned
they always have a chance to explain themselves and ask for mitigated discipline
once or twice, they are let off as they gave good reasons

d. after the punishment, i ALWAYS give them a hug and i will always ask them if papa loves them
they will say yes (not much choice there) ..and that they were punished because they were naughty

as i said in my opening post, all of them grew up into fine well-adjusted adults

we all know child abuse when we see one

dirty and unkempt
cane marks all over
bruises all over

NO...we do not condone child abuse.

I think any reasonable person would agree with the threads author as I do.
But maybe, like much in life we the reasonable are paying the price, in this case our freedom.
Because of the unreasonable,those who fog not punish but torture children.
That line exists we read about the latter all too often.