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Waiting for the J curve

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-09/cassidy---gillard/4742634
Yes another link.
A thought provoking look behind the curtain that is my ALP
And, in my view quite close to the truth.
I watch powerful men, within my party and see it in their eyes, Bill Shorten, a brilliant young bloke, who let himself and my party down, by supporting Gillard, his eyes show pain and that some thing else.
Are the heedless men, once known as the faceless brave enough to be men?
To put the party first, to avoid the extreme pain we are confronted with.
First link said, oh so very clearly it shouted its message!*anyone but Gillard*
Yet some here may not truly understand what a different party we could be, without her and her main supporters on our front bench.
Far better if they are not in our back yard or property.
Gillard came from the left, the extreme left, she in my view, would do anything to remain in power, has she the jam tart to see she must go?
Another leader could pull from view forever,policy,s that harm us, and put new ones up.
IF my party has the guts watch the impact of change on Liberals.
Turnbull could be both PM and treasurer not Abbott.
Australian politics must come out from under its privately owned rock.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 9 June 2013 3:05:13 PM
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SPQR if both our sides had the brains/guts we would agree to put each other in front of greens.
Electing donkeys is no way to see improvement.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 9 June 2013 3:08:22 PM
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Belly getting into bed with SPQR and his bunch of Nazi's would not do Labor any good.. What are you trying to do, turn the ALP into the town bike in an attempt to defeat The Greens.
SPQR if you bothered to get the news delivered to that rock you live under you would know that The Greens are risking bugger all at this election. I just love it when an ignorant fool turns up and proceeds to open its trap,.
Prax and the Nationals should only concern themselves with matters concerning sheep, the ALP with matters that will make a quid for Eddie O and the Labor band of criminals. Abbott should confine his comments to religious matters and points of cannon law, only opening his gob when Archie Pell tells him it's safe to do so.
The Greens are a broad based democratic grass roots all inclusive party, that has millions of supporters.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 10 June 2013 6:23:47 AM
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http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/17539415/collapse-in-labor-vote-in-six-vic-seats/
This link is about ALP internal polling.
Yet some will say it is not reliable, bank on it.
It could have been any one of ten, proving to me, if no one else, my words here are being said by many, in the ALP.
Paul.getting in bed with SPQR?
You understand we are opposite, yet agree on some things, as I do with Banjo and Shadow Minister, in some things .
See the party you try to sell, has policy,s that are unwelcome in the real world.
And some of its voters live in an unreal world.
You make claim about your party,s policy,s,that are untrue.
Desperately trying to theive the Democrat's mantel, *keep the B,s honest*
It rest assured, looks to thinking voters like rubbish, smells like rubbish and is rubbish.
Last three links, along with the caucus arm wrestling on the edge of a very big cliff J curve rightly upside down, entrenches my view reform is a must.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 10 June 2013 7:55:24 AM
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@Paul 1405

<<The Greens are a broad based democratic grass roots all inclusive party, that has millions of supporters>>

LOL Don't kid yourself!

The Greens only have the seats they do because the two major parties have favourably preferenced them. The end result of more power to the Greens will be the weakening of Australian sovereignty and the undercutting of Australian Industry and jobs.

I agree with Belly, if the two major parties had backbone they’d come to agreement to preference the Greens dead last--stop giving the Greens what amounts to a free ride.
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 10 June 2013 7:58:16 AM
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-leadership-on-the-line-as-caucus-eyes-turn-to-bill-shorten/story-fn59niix-1226661034356
Again I bring a link with me, my journey in to most not Murdock press is still under way.
Shorten it is said will stand by Dillard.
If he does maybe his long awaited term as PM will never come.
It takes men to say we got it wrong.
And far less than men to try to hide the fact they did.
Ignore the ALP is gone even under Rudd crew, they never traveled on my side of the fence.
Rudd, armed with the right his return would give him, could drag some policy,s out and change them or remove them.
Or Labor, lead by outsiders, can flirt with the possibility it is to be sacrificed to Protect , [impossible] union power brokers from ever being forced to confront the fact they hurt even them selves by dumping Rudd.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 10 June 2013 8:11:04 AM
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