For give them! Labor weighted down in good policy,s is still waiting for Gillards J curve.
It came, and went, about the week after she confronted Abbott re his not able to be hidden attitude to women.
It is there still, just as surely as the southern cross shines in the sky.
Sadly for Labor PTY LTD,an association of power brokers and useless union heads, it is up side down and not going to change.
AH But!
A true, real chance exists those who knifed Rudd/installed the J curves owner Gillard, may yet knife her, truly!
A leader picked at random, from any street in any town , could do better than Gillard.
SO? rebuilding Labor after the thrashing will be my contribution to this thread if we get a start.
First step, find a job out side Parliament for Gillard, Conroy, QLD voters are looking after Swan ,and the most likely to be new leader Bill Shorten, lots of class but blind as a bat in reading public opinion, a skill the party,s owners all lack.
Do more to remove those *owners if we get a run*
No party should think it can insult its members by the way, ALP goon show owners have much to answer for.

Dear Belly,

The PM wanted the job. Even John Howard, John Hewson,
and Malcolm Fraser admit that there's no shame in
having ambition. She may have helped dispose of her
predecessor, but that only proves the power of the
Party itself. Fixing the problems of the ALP policy
making requires more than changed leadership. The control
by party machine men and relying on bad research to justify
bad policies that prove the government is tougher than the
Opposition would still be there if the PM was removed
or left.

As Eva Cox has pointed out, "It would be way too easy to
blame the PM for the general behaviour and direction of
the Party she formally leads. She is not solely responsible
for the mess Labor is in at present."

The Pm has, as Eva Cox says, "done a good job in holding
together a diverse and quite different group of votes in the
Senate and the House of Reps and has pursued the business of
government with some efficiency, with many bills going
through unopposed and many others passed with narrow margins."

"In that sense, her role, as head of the executive process of
government has been impeccable." So why suggest she goes?

Take a look at Tony Abbott instead. Big on 3 word slogans,
small on policy detail. Simple pledges of negativity that
do little more than emphasise the government's supposed
failings. "Stop the boats" rhetoric only dog whistles the
community's xenophobes and bigots. "Scrap the carbon tax"
comforts only those who think climate change is crap.

It's sad.

We're all the poorer for it. Still there's no shortage of
the natural resources of ignorance, apathy, hate, and fear -
as long as those things are in the collective conscious and
unconscious, and as long as Mr Abbott remains as leader and
preys on these things -
the Liberal Party will get votes. That says a lot about the
gullibility of
many Australians when someone of his calibre gets to be
not only party leader but is given the chance to ascend
further.

Gillard has done so many sleazy deals that you can't buy grease any more. She would of been better to allow Abbott to take control for 3 years instead of doing a deal with the treacherous independants who only sided with her because of their hatred for Abbott and the Nationals. The sleazy smirks have just about disappeared along with their open and accountable Government they promised. The chickens have come home to roost. Now the gw scam has been exposed the voters can see how dishonest the carbon tax is. Man made gw fantasy has now cost Turnbull, Rudd (on Gillards advice) and Gillard their jobs.

Dear Belly,

There you have it - runner's post confirms
what I had stated earlier. There's no shortage
of the natural resources of ignorance, apathy,
hate, and fear - as long as those things are
in the collective conscious and unconscious, the
Liberal Party will get these votes.

Yes Lexi as as an apologist for such a poor performing PM I feel very reassured that your judgement is atrocious. Sure it is not bitterness rather than just anger? Your abbottphobia really appears to get the better of you and your judgement.

Belly, I wouldn't take it too hard : )

Everyone knows it is always swings and roundabouts with politics.
The people will get sick of the Liberals in an election or 2, and then Labor will be back.

The first woman PM was never going to have it easy, in a parliament full of men who all wanted that job.
Especially Abbott, who was defeated by her last time.

I actually can't wait for Abbott to get the big job, because then his true colours will be evident to all. I don't want to read ONE complaint about the holy man from contributors such as Rehctub and Runner. They wouldn't dare!

I see even more trouble ahead, after September...