Belly, Side step the question read you like a book, what's it to be The Greens or Hanson. The truth is you oppose The Greens progressive policies, I can live with that. Prax spot on, with talk of heartland and true believers etc, just clap trap. I'm north of the boarder today. True the natives not happy campers at the moment.. Don't take much interest in Qld politics seem's this CN bloke is a political fool.
More concerned with getting Cate elected to the Senate in NSW over Belly's choice of Hanson the rednecked red head.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/in-rudd-we-trust-say-voters-as-annihilation-looms-for-labor-20130608-2nwzq.html
The link offers unwanted but true still, evidence the ALP, for reasons I fail still, to understand, refuses to listen to the people.
Paul 1405? while you try to pin the tail of the donkey, Hanson on me,you highlight this.
You too, are uninterested in the voice of voters.
Can you not see hear and smell in part Labors perceived alliance with your party is reason for its coming rejection?
Elections have an unfortunate out come, people vote.
And like it or not they vote for what they want, not what you or I want.
Your party should prosper, gain by Labors coming thrashing.
That is its usual growth pattern.
You however have continued to call the policy,s of your party progressive?.
Your J curve too is upside down,its all down hill from here.

Belly, why would Rudd do anyone a favour in the ALP? Put his head on the chopping block to save the likes of Garrett, the man would be a fool. If I was Kevin I would sit back on Sep 14th, with a cold beer, and watch Gillard and her mob crash and burn. Then post election at the first party circus meeting in the phone box, if I felt so inclined I might put my hand up to become opp leader,
The demise of the ALP has nothing to do with The Greens and all to do with internal party problems plus poor leadership. Take last weeks folly the $20 m cash grab, what was Gillard thinking, blind Freddy could see that would go down like a lead balloon with the voters. Comrade Doug was right, should have sacked the spin docs a long time ago, to late now, the damage is done.
You as I predicted failed to answer the question who goes last in NSW Cate or Hanson your call. From your previous posts of put The Greens last, I assume you support Hanson .

@Paul 1405

Hopefully come the next election, the Greens will get their backsides well and truly whopped, Christian Milne will get deposed, and Paul will slink back to the dark hole he crawled out of --at least till he's needed as an extra in the next Hobbit movie

Its a crying shame the Greens don't concentrate on issues their party name suggests, rather than haring off on tangents that bear no relationship whatever to anything even remotely 'green'. I for one would seriously consider supporting a party that opposes wanton 'development' that more often than not is little more than environmental vandalism for the purpose of making some grubby mate of politicians a bit richer, but there is no way known I'll support a mob that professes to be one thing but in reality is something completely different. I would appreciate comment from any 'green' who can advise me what connection exists between queers & 'green' and / or between refugees (whether legal or otherwise) and 'green'. For the benefit of the educated idiot do-gooder fraternity, I don't deny anyone the right to jump on their own particular soapbox and scream whatever they wish. To quote whoever it was 'as far as I'm concerned, what you are on about is a load of crap, nevertheless I will defend to the death your right to say it'.

Paul1405

Advise me if you can why the Greens can't concentrate their efforts on 'green' matters. Its not as if the ecosystem isn't in need of whatever protection, given the concerted onslaught of all manner of vandal-minded 'developers' intent on chopping down every tree on the planet so they can create ever more concrete jungles, allowing big-business to pollute every waterway, and allowing supposed 'conservatives' to encourage giving trailbikes / horses unfettered access to national parks. Why FFS do Greens folk insist on getting so carried away with queers & illegals in total ignorance of what I at least assumed was the whole reason for creation of the party ??